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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/general/3414/do-you-correct-people</link><description>Since I am sort of forced to swim alone rather than on a master&amp;#39;s team this summer I often end up swimming after/before/next to someone who has horrible technique. I&amp;#39;m not nitpicking here, but I&amp;#39;m talking about dragging legs, barely getting arms out of</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/35195?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:59:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:c5d89c61-8539-49b5-96ce-dc651d96c3bd</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I&amp;#39;d never give advice unless asked. I would not be offended personally by unsolicted advice but many people are so I just keep my mouth shut.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/35124?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:59:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:e52d0822-c3bf-406f-9dd4-71a907949693</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>He only went to Mexico the second time. The first time he went to &amp;quot;Mezico&amp;quot; :D

I would be happy if geochuck were around where I swim :)

It was very hard to get on the internet after a few of Margaritas and after two I always spell Mexico as Mezico.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/35049?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:54:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:59a29eea-a87a-43e2-9070-ba2866713735</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>My advice to you ;)----don&amp;#39;t go to Mexico if you don&amp;#39;t want to miss posts!

He only went to Mexico the second time. The first time he went to &amp;quot;Mezico&amp;quot; :D

I would be happy if geochuck were around where I swim :)&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/34562?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:47:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:8f348136-b60d-4d79-8281-084d2b988f73</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I wish I had seen this thread earlier. I&amp;#39;m surprised so many people think it&amp;#39;s not a good idea to give unsolicited advice that will benefit someone, but a recent experience, not swimming related, did confirm to me that you folks are right, not just in swimming. Your well-intentioned help can not only be ill-interpreted but even cause much worse consequences . :bitching:

But anyway, I myself would be most grateful if some good swimmers at the pool would tell me what problems they have observed of my swimming. Interestingly I&amp;#39;ve hardly seen anyone correcting strangers&amp;#39; swim problems.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/34958?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:38:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:0f153c25-51a2-4516-bc4e-0c192c0ffb5a</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Same here. I&amp;#39;ve done it and had both reactions. I&amp;#39;ve been on the receiving end, too, once, when someone who was a horrible swimmer tried to advise me on my flip turns (I was throwing too much water onto the deck, in her opinion), and I just thanked her and moved on, but I didn&amp;#39;t ask for her advice and wasn&amp;#39;t happy she offered.

When I ask for help, I listen, because I&amp;#39;m asking someone I think can help me. So, I figure if someone wants advice, they&amp;#39;ll ask. I also think that as long as they&amp;#39;re in the water swimming, it&amp;#39;s a good thing. Once they get to a point where they&amp;#39;re open to advice they&amp;#39;ll either get lessons or start asking.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/34889?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 14:51:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:57b5f1df-d5b2-49e5-ba5f-401b7dc20892</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I only give advice to people on my team at practice, and only if they either ask for it or I see them struggling with some basic things.  There was a woman who couldn&amp;#39;t figure out why she was getting so winded, so I watched her swim and noticed a few things.  I pointed them out, and she came up to me after practice and thanked me.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/34819?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 14:04:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:4d7037cc-a21e-4ab6-b217-699e0c4b185c</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Yes I do.
 
I missed this when it was first posted. I was in Mezico for the winter and had hard time getting on the net.
 
The second time it came up I was in Mexico for the winter and again trouble with the internet.
 
 
My advice to you ;)----don&amp;#39;t go to Mexico if you don&amp;#39;t want to miss posts!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/34744?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:44:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:424f51e0-fdff-448f-ba61-c3c339f6fb2b</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>No b/c I don&amp;#39;t like it when others try and correct me (other than my coach). This goes double when said person is slower than I am.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/34633?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:03:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:a3b6c524-c341-401c-b22c-959eaabe3eba</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Yes I do.

I missed this when it was first posted. I was in Mezico for the winter and had hard time getting on the net.

The second time it came up I was in Mexico for the winter and again trouble with the internet.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/34728?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 08:32:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:c678e5c0-febe-4766-ac91-1b8f123cb1d3</guid><dc:creator>pwolf66</dc:creator><description>I tend to want to give advice but when I do approach someone I always ask &amp;#39;do you mind a little assistance?&amp;#39; depending on the reaction I either point out a couple of things or I just walk away.
 
Edit: Advice is rarely offered and is offered only to those who are struggling with just the fundamentals. If they are an experienced swimmer, I just mind my own business. Unless they&amp;#39;re a friend, in which case I give them a double barrel full&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/35267?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 05:03:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:a7406f07-fe92-46ef-b4ee-a289684dae44</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>i hate it when some one asks my advice and then tell me I&amp;#39;m wrong.  Or won&amp;#39;t do what I tell them to do because they don&amp;#39;t see how it will help.  I told a guy to do some catch up strokes because he wasn&amp;#39;t swimming in the front quadrant.  His hands were traveling too far past his hips.  he said what i told him to do was wrong.  he had never taken lessons and had taught himself to swim when he was in his mid 20s.  He still weaves his way down a pool.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/34530?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:53:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:87c0699c-af25-4a23-a81c-7e4e36c5b51a</guid><dc:creator>FlyQueen</dc:creator><description>I&amp;#39;ve gotten a lot more outspoken in giving in advice in the last year I&amp;#39;ve been coaching.  I have one swimmer however who basically refuses to listen to anything any coach says so in return I have stopped saying anything.  A few weeks ago I asked if he wanted help to make his stroke better he said no ... and that was that.

I cannot swim on my own without someone saying something to me.  Today I got asked if I was a professional swimmer.  I laughed and said no.  Then he asked if I was trying to be.  Again laughter and no.  Apparently with my hat thingy I look like one.  Usually though it&amp;#39;s you are really strong, you are really fast, or where did you swim in college.

I don&amp;#39;t give advice to strangers ever.  I tried to help a former teammate the other day (during what was already going to be a brief workout).  I gave him one tip and he actually asked if I&amp;#39;d watch him swim a half lap.  50 yards later I told him some more and I basically ended up giving a non-team member a 20 minute private lesson for free.  Oh well ...&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/34516?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 02:21:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:422a7013-d938-4f44-9f02-f30f3dea3d53</guid><dc:creator>swimmieAvsFan</dc:creator><description>If there&amp;#39;s something for a teammate, I&amp;#39;ll try to mention it to the coach to mention to them.  Unless its the blue muppet.  I tell her straight up &amp;quot;fix your left arm&amp;quot; for backstroke 8 days a week.

and twice on sundays.
:laugh2:

but seriously, i only correct strangers if asked.
teammates, i give unsolicited advice often.  guess that&amp;#39;s just the coach in me coming out. :)&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/34495?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 02:18:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:d3c8cbc5-88ec-445b-9063-43936de3909b</guid><dc:creator>Muppet</dc:creator><description>I get asked plenty of times to look at strangers&amp;#39; strokes.  Usually, I can suggest something simple for them to work on.  There have been occasions in the past where I had noticed something in someone while I&amp;#39;ve been swimming, and they&amp;#39;ll stop to ask me about something at some point and I can point it out to them.
If there&amp;#39;s something for a teammate, I&amp;#39;ll try to mention it to the coach to mention to them.  Unless its the blue muppet.  I tell her straight up &amp;quot;fix your left arm&amp;quot; for backstroke 8 days a week.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/34417?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:17:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:d1e2a9f1-cb1b-4a4f-af8c-8754ae91f3de</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Oko, you have the guts to put your video online! :notworthy: I will not until I feel like I&amp;#39;m doing a bit better. ;) The critique were very useful that I thought about it during my workout yesterday morning.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/34331?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:33:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:7f5f89da-1e55-4bf6-8449-4204913f585a</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Christine, :applaud:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/34247?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:52:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:2c30661b-3c22-4f44-b82f-3e9a5f7e38bd</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>2fish&amp;amp;1whale,

Just continue to take stroke lessons. That is something many people don&amp;#39;t understand about swimming. There is always something new to learn. I&amp;#39;ll be taking mine soon. :D :cheerleader::groovy:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/34180?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:15:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:14242574-65c2-4740-b5fe-54ba02a45ed0</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I too am in the no advice unless asked camp.  I guess I do not want to come off as a know it all or something along those lines.  If you ask then I am full of good ideas:drink:
 
Giot Boost&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/33837?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:44:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:f1d4effe-a905-48d0-943f-f11be4dcdbb5</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>As a rule I don’t give unsolicited advice to strangers, unless they ask.

Same here.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/33799?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:30:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:26818cff-23b0-483b-a008-3f9f6af6f64d</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I will never give advise unless asked. The best thing I can do is to do by examples, like, I&amp;#39;d swim using new techinque and show better results later. That often draw responses from the others. 

If I&amp;#39;m in their shoes, I&amp;#39;d ask who I feel is a proven qualified person. Thus, I&amp;#39;d check around to see who I ought o ask.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/34101?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:02:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:5819affb-2be4-494b-8c08-857663247814</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>i have often bitten my tounge, instead of saying something when i see someone fighting their way across the pool..i always tell myself that i&amp;#39;m no one to talk since i have no clue if my stroke is correct or not...on the other hand if it isn&amp;#39;t -----:help: it would be nice if someone pointed this out to me before i continue to make a fool out of myself!!!!!!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/33995?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 08:43:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:62a2be2c-609b-4c8d-8f98-4d067731d7c9</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>:party2:  I love to read and learn about techinques! I tell myself that those swimmers will do better if they bother to learn on how they can improve. :D&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/33900?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 08:12:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:18269cb6-8fbe-4650-89e6-969f57ac1fe9</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I sometimes request help from the coaches. I do help some people if they seem to take it positively. But normally most of the people do not care about their swiming technique at all. I like talk about swimming technique a lot. I do not know what&amp;#39;s wrong with me. :thhbbb:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/34082?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 03:44:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:5f7c1246-1d33-4eb1-95d0-1a40942ed404</guid><dc:creator>funkyfish</dc:creator><description>I&amp;#39;m in the boat with those who don&amp;#39;t unless asked. I&amp;#39;ve been caught a time or two giving lifting advice to people who were on their way to injuring themselves, but because it wasn&amp;#39;t solicited, afterward I felt as if &amp;quot;I talked too much.&amp;quot; 

Swimming-wise, I feel I&amp;#39;m of average speed, but upon looking at recent video of myself, I see where I&amp;#39;m in no position to offer advice. Maybe when I swim a :54 in the 100m free. Till then, it&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;swim and be quiet&amp;quot; for me.
:banana:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Do you correct people?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/33729?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2005 07:41:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:2b0aa1d7-78a1-4497-a085-54d3841aa487</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I never give advice unless asked.


I&amp;#39;m often told I have a great stroke (but terrible kick) and one woman who was a paddler, told me, in the locker room, that I shouldn&amp;#39;t throw water on the deck during my flip turns. I just kind of looked at her, puzzled, and went back to getting dressed. Meaning, I&amp;#39;d accept advice from somebody who I thought knew what they were talking about.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>