I entered the 200 IM at the 2005 Short course American Championships in Austin

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ande — Tue, 13 Apr 2010 04:22:48 GMT

a little nostalgia This is the thread that inspired me to start Ande's Swimming Blog

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ande — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:07:27 GMT

Carrie, a very belated thank you ande That's a great motivator, Ande, and might deserve a spot in your swim faster faster tips! Congrats on your swims so far at SC Champs. Carrie

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aquageek — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:14:28 GMT

but early on there was an ande hater who thought I should take up USMS space with a blog and I should move it to a more appropriate place, like blogspot, blogger, ... Yes, it was me who originally thought this, but I was never a hater. I have to admit that I have changed my mind totally and enjoy your blog tremendously. It is very good and I have actually stolen some workout ideas from it. In that regard, I recant. As a matter of fact, me and another swimming oriented poster on here have frequently commented on your times in private chats.

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The Fortress — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 11:05:40 GMT

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aquaFeisty — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 05:27:28 GMT

when I'm training I attempt to do something blog worthy in each practice. That's a great motivator, Ande, and might deserve a spot in your swim faster faster tips! Congrats on your swims so far at SC Champs. Carrie

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ande — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 04:57:06 GMT

Geek, I wasn't referring to you, there was another member who thought I was going to use too much data storage space. I'm glad you tremendously enjoy my swim blog, I keep posting to it because of the encouragement, friendship and comments it gets, when I'm training I attempt to do something blog worthy in each practice. ande Yes, it was me who originally thought this, but I was never a hater. I have to admit that I have changed my mind totally and enjoy your blog tremendously. It is very good and I have actually stolen some workout ideas from it. In that regard, I recant. As a matter of fact, me and another swimming oriented poster on here have frequently commented on your times in private chats.

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poolraat — Thu, 22 Feb 2007 09:56:25 GMT

Good Luck today Ande! ...No loafing around on backstroke.... What's wrong with this? It gives you a chance to: 1) catch your breath after not breathing much on the fly and 2) mentally prepare for the breaststroke which will be miserably slow now matter how hard you work it. Swimming IM is kind of like :frustrated: .

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ande — Thu, 22 Feb 2007 03:54:52 GMT

thanks to everyone who commented here I don't think I'm going to focus on breastroke, i just don't want to suck at it so bad. on the ratings of my blog forums.usms.org/showthread.php if you click "rating" which is near the top of each page you'll see that 5 stars are excellent 4 stars are good 3 stars are average 2 stars are bad and 1 star is terrible not very many people rate threads but early on there was an ande hater who thought I should take up USMS space with a blog and I should move it to a more appropriate place, like blogspot, blogger, ... so I would appreciate any 5 star ratings that folks want to give I think the system is set up so you can only rate once ande Aha! I knew I was swimming it correctly despite all the crap I got on Rich's 100 IM thread. No loafing around on backstroke. I'm with FlyQueen on the 50, 100, 200 *** training? Eewww.. What happened to specialize, specialize, specialize? Or did you just get really bored that year? Did you ever really do it? I'm glad you started your blog. I guess everyone else is too since it got such a great *** rating. Good luck tomorrow!

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The Fortress — Wed, 21 Feb 2007 11:37:06 GMT

The 100 IM is a sprint. Aha! I knew I was swimming it correctly despite all the crap I got on Rich's 100 IM thread. No loafing around on backstroke. I'm with FlyQueen on the 50, 100, 200 *** training? Eewww.. What happened to specialize, specialize, specialize? Or did you just get really bored that year? Did you ever really do it? I'm glad you started your blog. I guess everyone else is too since it got such a great *** rating. Good luck tomorrow!

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Redbird Alum — Wed, 21 Feb 2007 11:29:31 GMT

i haven't swum the 200 IM since 2005 but I imagine I can still go under 2:00 for scy, one morning in practice this season I pushed off a 2:06 200 IM Ande - Pretty safe bet you could eclipse the 2:00 mark with a 2:06 practice push-off. If I were in your shoes I'ld throw one in at a meet if the 200 IM was after your targeted swim, just to see. Oh, and I'm grateful I'll be out of the 45-49 when you age up with an IM like that! :bow:

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FlyQueen — Wed, 21 Feb 2007 06:06:26 GMT

for grins, one year, I might train for the 50, 100, & 200 *** Ande EW! Seriously, don't ...

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ande — Wed, 21 Feb 2007 06:05:22 GMT

hi there, i haven't swum the 200 IM since 2005 but I imagine I can still go under 2:00 for scy, one morning in practice this season I pushed off a 2:06 200 IM it's all about how smart I split the fly and back and how fast my *** and free splits are. I think I'm faster now than I was in 2005 I might start focusing on it again for when I turn 45 for grins, one year, I might train for the 50, 100, & 200 *** Ande Ande - Interesting to read what transpired then... how is your 200 IM these days?

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Redbird Alum — Wed, 21 Feb 2007 05:48:20 GMT

Ande - Interesting to read what transpired then... how is your 200 IM these days?

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ande — Wed, 21 Feb 2007 02:28:19 GMT

thought I'd bump this thread from a couple years ago since it's what started my swim blog ande

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ande — Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:59:02 GMT

hello, that's a decent 100 fly, you made a few mistakes, be confident that you'll go faster next time when you correct those problems. wishing you luck, ande Originally posted by newmastersswimmer Well I finally swam "part" of my time trial tonite.....Apparently I was wrong when I thought it was last nite (as I found out the hard way when I was the only one who showed up)......I caught up with the woman who offered me the time trial tonite though just before she was scheduled to give a swim lesson. ......I was only able to swim one event since she had to do the lesson and I chose the 100 meter fly (short course meters)......I will "hopefully" do another time trial next week sometime which should include another 100 fly and a 100 IM......In the end I didn't have that great of a race. I blame the majority of it on the poor condition of the starting blocks at our pool (which are not properly bolted down and wobble as a result!)......My start was horrendous as I went into the pool sideways and came up on the left hand lane line......I also had the left side of my googles fill up with water off the start which also set a bad tone for the rest of the race (which felt very awkward throughout!).....My turns were not much better than my start......my final time was 1:03.49......I was out miserably slow in a 30.6!.....Ouch!......I was hoping for something more like 28.5 , 32.0....which would have been 1:00.5 (wishful thinking perhaps?)......Oh well, I can't imagine that my next attempt could go any worse (from a technical perspective that is)......I'll let you know how the next time trial goes when it's over (wish me luck!!) Newmastersswimmer p.s. Thanks for the Meters to Yards Conversion website Old Flyer.....According to that website my time tonite converts to a high 56 in yards.....I personally think that a high 56 is a little generous though? (from "short course meters to short course yards").....I was thinking more like Ande......5 or 6 seconds which means I was more like a mid 57??....Perhaps the time conversions are a little larger when the times are slower?....Meaning that a 5 second conversion is appropriate for a time under 50 seconds in meters....but a 6.5 to 7 second conversion fits better for times over a minute??

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knelson — Fri, 11 Mar 2005 01:07:45 GMT

Originally posted by newmastersswimmer 5 or 6 seconds which means I was more like a mid 57??....Perhaps the time conversions are a little larger when the times are slower?....Meaning that a 5 second conversion is appropriate for a time under 50 seconds in meters....but a 6.5 to 7 second conversion fits better for times over a minute?? I'd say this makes sense. Since there are the same number of turns in scm and scy you could just try multiplying by the meters to yards conversion factor. This would give 58.0 (63.49 * .9144). Of course, since you're swimming about 9% in further you need to consider that you'll go a little slower due to the additional distance. So this is the reason you add a little less per 100 for faster times.

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Former Member — Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:24:44 GMT

Well I finally swam "part" of my time trial tonite.....Apparently I was wrong when I thought it was last nite (as I found out the hard way when I was the only one who showed up)......I caught up with the woman who offered me the time trial tonite though just before she was scheduled to give a swim lesson. ......I was only able to swim one event since she had to do the lesson and I chose the 100 meter fly (short course meters)......I will "hopefully" do another time trial next week sometime which should include another 100 fly and a 100 IM......In the end I didn't have that great of a race. I blame the majority of it on the poor condition of the starting blocks at our pool (which are not properly bolted down and wobble as a result!)......My start was horrendous as I went into the pool sideways and came up on the left hand lane line......I also had the left side of my googles fill up with water off the start which also set a bad tone for the rest of the race (which felt very awkward throughout!).....My turns were not much better than my start......my final time was 1:03.49......I was out miserably slow in a 30.6!.....Ouch!......I was hoping for something more like 28.5 , 32.0....which would have been 1:00.5 (wishful thinking perhaps?)......Oh well, I can't imagine that my next attempt could go any worse (from a technical perspective that is)......I'll let you know how the next time trial goes when it's over (wish me luck!!) Newmastersswimmer p.s. Thanks for the Meters to Yards Conversion website Old Flyer.....According to that website my time tonite converts to a high 56 in yards.....I personally think that a high 56 is a little generous though? (from "short course meters to short course yards").....I was thinking more like Ande......5 or 6 seconds which means I was more like a mid 57??....Perhaps the time conversions are a little larger when the times are slower?....Meaning that a 5 second conversion is appropriate for a time under 50 seconds in meters....but a 6.5 to 7 second conversion fits better for times over a minute??

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Former Member — Wed, 09 Mar 2005 16:44:56 GMT

I'm sorry you didn't break 2:00 Ande....but you did come very close!! I agree from your splits that you probably would have gone under 2:00 if you went out a tad slower (or maybe just a tad more relaxed) and saved more for the end.....The 200 IM is a tricky event (as you and others have pointed out in another thread here).....I've heard some say that it is an all out sprint....but I don't think it is (unless your someone like Ryan Lochte sp?? or Micheal Phelps)......I think the secret is to try and get out fast during the butterfly and backstroke while still conserving enough energy for the *** and free.....The key IMHO, is staying loose and somewhat fresh during these first two legs while still swimming at a pretty fast rate......Do you think that you may have expended too much energy with the underwater dolphin kicks on backstroke??.....Maybe that extra exertion while holding your breath a little longer took something out of you?? I am swimming a 200 IM (for time at a swim meet) for the first time in 18 years on April 9th (or 10th)....I will let you know what my splits are afterwards......I do think that the 100 IM is more of an all out sprint though.....I am swimming a 100 IM time trial tonite as well as a 100 butterfly time trial tonite (short course meters).....I want to get as close to 1:00 as possible (or hopefully maybe even below 1:00??) in either one or both of them (thinking that about a 5 second conversion from meters to yards would then make a 1:00 convert to a 55 in yards?). I'll let you know the outcome after it is over. newmastersswimmer

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Former Member — Wed, 09 Mar 2005 06:54:00 GMT

hey ande, great race although you didn't reach your goal. I'm sure you'll get down 2:00 next time. beating your personal best is priceless, so make sure you do your best or even better ;) good luck

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Former Member — Wed, 09 Mar 2005 06:41:39 GMT

If you are swimming LCM time trial, you should divide by 1.11 to get an estimate SCY time. 1:00.0 for 100 IM or 100 fly is equivalent to www.swiminfo.com/.../conversions.asp How'd you do on your time trials?

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ande — Wed, 09 Mar 2005 05:05:51 GMT

thank you, 2:00.85 is not my life time PR, it's just my PR for this season. I think my PR as a master is 1:59 something from 1995 My 200 IM PR is 1:51.4 from 1986. In late 1990 - early 1992 I was in very strong and fast but never swam the 200 IM, I imagine I could have popped a good 200 IM then. I was 20.5 in the 50 y free, 23.6 in the 50 LCM Fr and 25.6 in the 50 LCM FL now that I'm in my 40's I wipe the slate clean each season. Though I am convinced I can continue to improve my current times for a few years, maybe into my early 50's if I continue to train hard. Though I think I'm going to change my focus event each season. right now it's the 200 IM. I'm considering focusing on the 500 next short course season. ande Originally posted by Matthias hey ande, great race although you didn't reach your goal. I'm sure you'll get down 2:00 next time. beating your personal is priceless, so make sure you do your best or even better ;) good luck

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ande — Wed, 09 Mar 2005 04:58:43 GMT

yep we're in agreement. Easy speed is a hard gear to gage. All I know is next time I swim it, i need to save my legs and I need to be much stronger on the *** and free. Yes I swam to hard on the back and stayed under too long on the kick. The 100 IM is a sprint. the conversion factor from 100 yards to meters is about 5 or 6 seconds. ie the world record in the 100 SCM Free is 46.25 the american record in the 100 Y Free is 41.6 41.6 / 46.25 = .8993 IM splits work out much better on paper than they do in reality, it's hard to factor what you're capable of when you're fatigued. Good luck let us know how you do ande Originally posted by newmastersswimmer I'm sorry you didn't break 2:00 Ande....but you did come very close!! I agree from your splits that you probably would have gone under 2:00 if you went out a tad slower (or maybe just a tad more relaxed) and saved more for the end.....The 200 IM is a tricky event (as you and others have pointed out in another thread here).....I've heard some say that it is an all out sprint....but I don't think it is (unless your someone like Ryan Lochte sp?? or Micheal Phelps)......I think the secret is to try and get out fast during the butterfly and backstroke while still conserving enough energy for the *** and free.....The key IMHO, is staying loose and somewhat fresh during these first two legs while still swimming at a pretty fast rate......Do you think that you may have expended too much energy with the underwater dolphin kicks on backstroke??.....Maybe that extra exertion while holding your breath a little longer took something out of you?? I am swimming a 200 IM (for time at a swim meet) for the first time in 18 years on April 9th (or 10th)....I will let you know what my splits are afterwards......I do think that the 100 IM is more of an all out sprint though.....I am swimming a 100 IM time trial tonite as well as a 100 butterfly time trial tonite (short course meters).....I want to get as close to 1:00 as possible (or hopefully maybe even below 1:00??) in either one or both of them (thinking that about a 5 second conversion from meters to yards would then make a 1:00 convert to a 55 in yards?). I'll let you know the outcome after it is over. newmastersswimmer

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ande — Mon, 07 Mar 2005 05:26:55 GMT

thank you kyra, my next meet is the South Central Masters Zone Championships in San Antonio, TX on Fri April 8 - Sunday April 10th. In the mean time i'll be doing a combination of March 7 - 11: Training hard March 12 - 20: Taking a break the next week cause it's Spring Break and I've got a camp out, beach trip and work training trip, March 21 - 27: training hard the week March 28 - April 8th: resting the next two weeks and getting ready to race April 8 - 10 ande Originally posted by Seagurl51 Congrats on your swim Ande! Keep up all your hard work!! ~Kyra

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Former Member — Sun, 06 Mar 2005 14:12:19 GMT

Congrats on your swim Ande! Keep up all your hard work!! ~Kyra

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ande — Sun, 06 Mar 2005 09:06:10 GMT

here's how the race went I got 48th out of 59 swimmers I went 2:00.85 in the 200 IM my splits were 48 Rasmussen, Anders 41 Longhorn 2:00.85 11.37 14.03 25.40 15.17 14.53 29.70 55.10 17.81 18.25 36.06 1:31.16 15.31 14.38 29.69 2:00.85 I dolphin kicked pretty hard off the walls on the back leg then had little left for the breastroke and even less for the free but that's my best time for the season If I'd gotten another chance to swim it I think I would have gone faster next time I'm going to try taking it really easy on the fly and back and save my legs for the *** and free maybe I'll get under 2:00 this season