question on the IM

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Former Member — Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:22:13 GMT

Originally posted by Bob McAdams Yes, but in freestyle that just means touching the wall with some part of your body. So if freestyle weren't last, you could flip into the next stroke and touch the wall with the bottoms of your feet. Makes sense..... So there would be an advantage to having free be somewhere other than last - so you can get an extra flip turn.

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Former Member — Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:33:40 GMT

Originally posted by Scansy I don't think you could flip the transition turn - don't you have to finish each stroke with a standard finish? Yes, but in freestyle that just means touching the wall with some part of your body. So if freestyle weren't last, you could flip into the next stroke and touch the wall with the bottoms of your feet.

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Former Member — Thu, 24 Feb 2005 06:59:20 GMT

Originally posted by ande Doing 100 each way might make an interesting and confusing 100 IM set I think it would be more exhausting than confusing or interesting.:(

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ande — Thu, 24 Feb 2005 01:53:33 GMT

let's make up the rules and say you can flip the turn from free to the next stroke and because of that it may be faster to do it FL BR FR BK or maybe FL BK FR BR I think I might pick up a second or so swimming it this way ande here's all 24 combos FL BK BR FR FL BK FR BR FL BR BK FR FL BR FR BK FL FR BK BR FL FR BR BK BK FL BR FR BK FL FR BR BK BR FL FR BK BR FR FL BK FR BR FL BK FR FL BR BR FL BK FR BR FL FR BK BR BK FL FR BR BK FR FL BR FR FL BK BR FR BK FL FR FL BK BR FR FL BR BK FR BK FL BR FR BK BR FL FR BR FL BK FR BR BK FL Doing 100 each way might make an interesting and confusing 100 IM set Originally posted by Scansy Makes sense..... So there would be an advantage to having free be somewhere other than last - so you can get an extra flip turn.

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Former Member — Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:15:03 GMT

OK, here it is. I would do fly, back, free then ***. Here's why ... The fly and back wipe me out. But I can recover pretty well on the free without slowing down too much. Then, I would have something left to do a good push off/pull down in the ***. I have been working on that and I can make up time on that. This would be even better if this was for short course - I get an extra pull down.

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swimshark — Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:41:23 GMT

I have noticed when we do reverse IM's in practice, I seem to do the best. I don't know why, but I have energy left over. Maybe it's because I can "coast" more on free and *** and then rest a bit on back before using up what I have left on fly.

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Former Member — Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:42:09 GMT

I don't think you could flip the transition turn - don't you have to finish each stroke with a standard finish?

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ande — Wed, 23 Feb 2005 05:56:50 GMT

no it's a 50 of each stroke no dropping any strokes ande

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ande — Wed, 23 Feb 2005 02:46:12 GMT

you know it might be good to put free 2nd or 3rd because then you'd get to flip the transition turn, it just worries me to put *** at the end, because your speed could really drop off as fatigue increases and power fades. ande Originally posted by Scansy OK, here it is. I would do fly, back, free then ***. Here's why ... The fly and back wipe me out. But I can recover pretty well on the free without slowing down too much. Then, I would have something left to do a good push off/pull down in the ***. I have been working on that and I can make up time on that. This would be even better if this was for short course - I get an extra pull down.

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Former Member — Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:59:54 GMT

I like that even better. Drop the *** stroke and do two free. Then maybe I could swim with the fast IMers.:D

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Former Member — Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:57:51 GMT

Can I choose to drop the back altogether and double up on one of the others?

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Former Member — Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:28:05 GMT

I think my fastest would be the fly, ***, back, free. This way I would get the fly out of the way, rest on my worst stroke, take advantage of my strong stroke, and bring it home with the free. The slowest would be doing the IM backwards Free, back, ***, fly or even doing free, back, fly, ***. Interesting question. To bad we didn't have a choice.

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Karen Duggan — Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:44:54 GMT

No, no, the free's definitely got to go!!!!

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ande — Tue, 22 Feb 2005 07:38:14 GMT

i think starting with back would be the slowest because you wouldn't get the advantage and momentum of a dive off the block. you'd have to start in the water. ending with fly would be plain ugly and painful for me it's kind of a complex question. Because as you move the swim sequence around you'd gain in some and lose in others i know if I put fly on the end I'd be lucky to go under 30 for 50 yards and at the beginning it would be pretty easy to go under 25 ande Originally posted by SWinkleblech I think my fastest would be the fly, ***, back, free. This way I would get the fly out of the way, rest on my worst stroke, take advantage of my strong stroke, and bring it home with the free. The slowest would be doing the IM backwards Free, back, ***, fly or even doing free, back, fly, ***. Interesting question. To bad we didn't have a choice.

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ande — Tue, 22 Feb 2005 07:31:12 GMT

when I swam for UT several times each year in the early season we would do the quadrathlon where we did a race 50 fl, bk, br, and fr we had about 10 minutes between each swim they assigned points for times my best year was 1985 where I went 23.1, 24.5, 27.6, 21.6 ande Originally posted by Karen Duggan Fun. I've wondered that too. I also thought it would be fun to just take the fastest 50 times and combine them for a 200, and the fastest 100s for a 400. I'd be a 4:12, still not faster than my husband!!!! Rats :(

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Karen Duggan — Tue, 22 Feb 2005 07:12:19 GMT

Fun. I've wondered that too. I also thought it would be fun to just take the fastest 50 times and combine them for a 200, and the fastest 100s for a 400. I'd be a 4:12, still not faster than my husband!!!! Rats :(