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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/general/2795/faster-backstroke</link><description>Not sure if this goes in this forum or not, but I could really use some help on this. I finally have got my freestyle times to be below 40 sec. consistenly for 50 yds (i know it&amp;#39;s slow but it&amp;#39;s the fastest I&amp;#39;ve ever been personally), and now I would like</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/22315?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 01:03:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:8cc4ef69-4035-4ec6-96ad-deaa7c041bd6</guid><dc:creator>wnt2bfst</dc:creator><description>I have never gotten water in my nose when I first push off the wall either, only when I&amp;#39;m trying to move really fast and move my arms like a crazy person.  I&amp;#39;ve figured out that I actually swim faster when I relax a little.  Also breathing out through your nose and in through your mouth helps.

Nose plugs, the only way to flail! SDK&amp;#39;s not a problem, with nose plugs.

What I would like to know is how do you keep your shoulder joint from tearing while flailing. :cane:

I am really not much of a fla&amp;#39;er. I am more of a &amp;quot;This is gonna hurt so glide as far as you can&amp;quot; backstroker.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/22308?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 07:39:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:4c637570-7d71-4d66-9f9a-dc2d539d0bc3</guid><dc:creator>orca1946</dc:creator><description>It beats pulling water in your nose &amp;amp; out your mouth!!!!!!!!:bolt:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/22272?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 13:58:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:d1857f7e-2bac-468f-9bf4-a7de2784b01b</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I have never gotten water in my nose when I first push off the wall either, only when I&amp;#39;m trying to move really fast and move my arms like a crazy person.  I&amp;#39;ve figured out that I actually swim faster when I relax a little.  Also breathing out through your nose and in through your mouth helps.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/22246?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2005 15:36:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:2032ab6e-83e7-4ee6-917b-419ae2467775</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Loved that!!!  Now I need to see the ones for the other strokes!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/22206?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2005 15:32:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:19b0864a-597e-4f6e-9f9a-d764c8956131</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Unfortunately I don&amp;#39;t know who wrote this, I belive it has been posted before ... here&amp;#39;s the backstroke part (they do all four strokes)
BACKSTROKE

 

We have many questions to ask of the world&amp;#39;s backstrokers. First, what is the matter with you? That&amp;#39;s right, you heard us. What is your problem? Do you not realize that you are upside down? Does light not shine in your sinister eyes? Are you reptiles with a second pair of eyelids, opaque in nature, that protect you from the sun&amp;#39;s rays? Speaking of eyes, what about the ones in the backs of your heads, allowing you to spot the wall? Is it true that you can see through Speedos? And what of your start...crouched in front of the blocks as if praying to your &amp;quot;god.&amp;quot; Who sent you to Earth? What have you done with Elvis? And why, when you grab at our private parts in practice, do you pretend that it is an accident?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/22158?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2005 15:23:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:9e362432-8874-4948-95cd-dbf3388b5a25</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Backstroke bad.  Breaststroke good.

Bad, bad, backstroke.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/22097?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2005 14:53:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:4b35fc4e-f121-4f0e-b485-63cc65e00acf</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I don&amp;#39;t need to improve my backstroke, it&amp;#39;s perfect!













haha ... not really, anyone that has seen me swim backstroke will tell you it&amp;#39;s far from perfect ... stupid backstroke!  ;)&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/22015?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2005 14:26:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:fb58939a-9fe2-42ab-bb68-38f779276d16</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Originally posted by SwiminONandON 
Like a kissy/fish face kind of a thing?  So you are really puffing out your lips?  

I roll my top lip up to under my nose.  I think I must have learned it when I was really little b/c I have always done it.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/21969?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2005 13:36:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:969f9adb-b3b9-4dcf-aba9-e91036506705</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Originally posted by Leonard Jansen 
Actually, the East Germans tried this in the 70&amp;#39;s and gave up on it as it provided relatively little floatation and lots of cramping/bloating/discomfort.

-LBJ  

Weren&amp;#39;t the East Germans pumping everything and anything into their body around that time?  Not just swimmers ....&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/21929?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2005 11:48:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:3a52d493-5034-49b7-9cd8-95f0a30d0c30</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Originally posted by ande 

I&amp;#39;ve heard of swimmers pumping air into their intestines before a big race.  eww
 

Actually, the East Germans tried this in the 70&amp;#39;s and gave up on it as it provided relatively little floatation and lots of cramping/bloating/discomfort.

-LBJ&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/22077?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2005 10:49:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:d0d0a990-6c3a-43e8-832f-13723306289a</guid><dc:creator>ande</dc:creator><description>i just wandered into the hinter lands of &amp;quot;general discussions&amp;quot; looking for threads  I wanted to comment on
I&amp;#39;m sure there&amp;#39;s several people here who want to improve their backstroke

ande 

Originally posted by Seagurl51 
Whoa Ande!  What&amp;#39;s with the rehashing old threads?;)

Since I posted this thread all those many months ago, I&amp;#39;ve found a pretty good rythm to my backstroke.  It&amp;#39;s getting better slowly but surely, and I&amp;#39;m sure after this summer it will be even better.  

Good Luck Jeanette with your breathing.  You&amp;#39;ll get it in no time!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/21884?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 12:14:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:8b3ef227-cdaf-4685-a95a-122205dd2523</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Whoa Ande!  What&amp;#39;s with the rehashing old threads?;)

Since I posted this thread all those many months ago, I&amp;#39;ve found a pretty good rythm to my backstroke.  It&amp;#39;s getting better slowly but surely, and I&amp;#39;m sure after this summer it will be even better.  

Good Luck Jeanette with your breathing.  You&amp;#39;ll get it in no time!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/21822?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 09:16:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:d6ebf2cb-6799-4c5e-aafb-192443e90ca4</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Like a kissy/fish face kind of a thing?  So you are really puffing out your lips?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/21778?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 09:15:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:c81ae759-5b30-489d-9365-745d10f3003c</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I do 25&amp;#39;s underwater fly kick on my back, not on my stomach.  

As far as getting water up your nose I also can scrunch my top lip to cover my nose.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/21748?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 09:11:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:b0c653e8-8ab6-4717-9d52-2382cb15f94a</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>No, the kick is on your back, dolphin, underwater ...&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/21674?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 08:56:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:a622115a-155d-4148-b53e-5f20513fd728</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Hmmm ... see these are all things I just do, I don’t really think about ...  I think I start blowing out water when I am in my streamline unless it’s a sprint and then I hold my breathe a little longer ... it really depends on the race.  Oxygen debt for a 50 free isn’t a problem, but on a 1650 you want to be getting in as much oxygen as you can.  Make sure you really empty your lungs, too.  I actually usually intake just a bit of water before I turn, and spit the water out first (it’s a weird habit that I actually like).&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/21610?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 08:52:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:43628c7f-73bd-476a-a8cb-8864d94eb69b</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>The flow of the water isn&amp;#39;t going up your nose, it&amp;#39;s going against your body so it&amp;#39;d be going the opposite direction.  I really don&amp;#39;t get it, I am fairly gifted genetically though ;)  

No, those 25 kicks would be on your back, I can pop out at 15m on underwater dolphin kick on my back no prob (well off of the first wall, it&amp;#39;s all down hill after that)  Build up to it!  Make sure you are in a super tight streamline, have good technique on your kick.   Go as far as you can, pop up for air, go back down ...&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/21521?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 08:46:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:c2fbe326-b8e1-4bc0-8887-1efd40a7fac9</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I don&amp;#39;t understand how people get water up their noses in backstroke ... very perplexing to me, however ... breathe out of your nose ...&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/21455?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 08:38:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:82a615d9-b690-4725-bf9b-9481a6bf8aaa</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>As with most things in swimming ... practice, practice, and more practice ... Technique is huge obviously, make sure you are starting your kick from the gut and using your hips.  Work it on every backstroke set.  Do underwater 25s with no breathe.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/21866?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 05:26:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:3fd9961e-2a3f-44cf-b933-816dc147893b</guid><dc:creator>jswim</dc:creator><description>Originally posted by EyeoreSAM 
I do 25&amp;#39;s underwater fly kick on my back, not on my stomach.  

As far as getting water up your nose I also can scrunch my top lip to cover my nose.  

ahhhh.. thus the genetic enhancements!.. damn!.. 25 m underwater fly kick on back..impressive

ok then.. I have some goals now at least! 

Heather I figured you meant 25 dolphin kicks underwater on back, but I initially thought you meant 25 Meters, though you may have actually.. hmmmm....

I&amp;#39;ll do as many as I can anyway, and work from there!
J.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/21734?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 05:10:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:22d7afb9-ab04-4dcb-9dda-47579e89d59a</guid><dc:creator>jswim</dc:creator><description>ohhhhh, 25 KICKS.. I thought you meant to start swimming 25 yards underwater on my back.. whew!

Thanks for the tips! I&amp;#39;ll give em&amp;#39; a go at practice tonight!

also after thinking about it a bit I&amp;#39;m wondering if because I breathe out so fully on my back if the water rushing into my nose is perhaps due to an involuntary reaction to start sucking air back in?... Maybe if I don&amp;#39;t breathe out all the way I won&amp;#39;t get the water up my nose... 

Though it may just be the genetic advantages that allow you all to do this correctly! lol.. ;)&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/21583?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 04:51:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:88da2f45-488d-483b-b8ae-774b115d993d</guid><dc:creator>jswim</dc:creator><description>Also,, my coach told me (many times, because I used to hold my breath as a habit), not to hold my breath on push offs, but let a little out as I&amp;#39;m streamlining, or I will go into oxygen debt faster and  my energy level will suffer..

is this true, or perhaps just training to get used to that oxygen debt is what will overcome that?
J.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/21571?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 04:49:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:8fefd8ad-ec86-4c11-8d49-e34b160990f2</guid><dc:creator>jswim</dc:creator><description>Originally posted by SwiminONandON 
As with most things in swimming ... practice, practice, and more practice ... Technique is huge obviously, make sure you are starting your kick from the gut and using your hips.  Work it on every backstroke set.  Do underwater 25s with no breathe.  

yeah I&amp;#39;m going to have to do just that I know..  I&amp;#39;m assuming those underwater 25&amp;#39;s would be on my stomach,, not my back, correct? there&amp;#39;s NOOOOO way I could do that on my back!..
lol.. boy that would be an ugly thing to witness!

I also have the question of how the heck do you keep water from getting up your nose while holding your breath??... do you have special nostril exercises, or are you all just genetically advanced?? ;)&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/21556?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 04:49:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:c5d5f20e-bbff-418b-bc53-52851efd3628</guid><dc:creator>ande</dc:creator><description>i scrunch my nose 
one swimmer i know presses her top lip over her nose holes
(no clue how she does that) 
some people wear nose plugs 
some swimmer blow air till they surface

ande

Originally posted by nkace 
It&amp;#39;s good to know I am not the only one getting water up the nose when doing backstroke, yuck. How does one prevent this?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: faster backstroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/21511?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 04:44:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:095ebb06-2d46-43c9-918e-eb631b7f9de1</guid><dc:creator>nkace</dc:creator><description>It&amp;#39;s good to know I am not the only one getting water up the nose when doing backstroke, yuck. How does one prevent this?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>