Lose fat

RE: Lose fat

Former Member — Wed, 13 Oct 2004 05:46:12 GMT

Originally posted by clyde hedlund Remember the days when drinking and eating all kinds of sweets would never make you fat? But now just a bite of this or drinking a can of that packs the fat on. Well, beware of the genetic engineered sweetner, for it is in everything. Unlike old fashion cane or beet sugar, which are digested naturally by the body, this high fructose corn sweetener is only digested through the liver. And that's why today's kids and myself are getting fat. You can't escape this sweetener, for it is in everything - making you fat. clyde daerath has already done a good job of explaining the true nature of the various sweeteners we use. The reason why drinking and eating all kinds of sweets didn't used to make you fat wasn't because the sweeteners were different. It was because you were different! And the difference is not just physical activity. When a person in his early 20s exercises, his body secretes a substantial amount of growth hormone in response, which tends to convert his caloric intake into lean body mass rather than fat. But by the time a person is in his mid 40s, his body secretes less than a fifth that much growth hormone in response to exercise. The result is that it is much harder to put on lean body mass and much easier to put on fat.

RE: Lose fat

Former Member — Tue, 28 Sep 2004 07:20:18 GMT

Originally posted by clyde hedlund Remember the days when drinking and eating all kinds of sweets would never make you fat? What days were those? The reason I was thin in my teenage years was due to swimming 4-5 days per week for a year-round team, hopping on my bicycle whenever I got a chance and the general activity during the day. When I started college my activity level was lower, but I also hit a major growth spurt which helped to offset any weight gain for another few years. Once that series of spurts was done, and my activity level stayed low, only then did I start to gain weight. There were *plenty* of overweight people around at that point in history, all of whom were overweight for the same reason people are today. They took in more food than was necessary for them to operate during the day. Originally posted by clyde hedlund But now just a bite of this or drinking a can of that packs the fat on. Well, beware of the genetic engineered sweetner, for it is in everything. Unlike old fashion cane or beet sugar, which are digested naturally by the body, this high fructose corn sweetener is only digested through the liver. And that's why today's kids and myself are getting fat. You can't escape this sweetener, for it is in everything - making you fat. clyde In 1966 the leading sweetener being used was known as “sucrose” which was made from refined sugar. Today, the leading sweetener is made from corn starch, which is known as “high-fructose corn syrup”. The corn that produces this corn starch may be genetically modified, but it may not. There isn’t any real way to tell because there is no regulation requiring derivative products of genetically engineered products to be marked. Sucrose is a large molecule that is broken down into fructose and glucose in your intestines. High-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is made up of equal parts of fructose and glucose. High-fructose corn syrup costs slightly less per unit than refined sugar (sucrose), hence the predominance of HFCS in products today. It also tastes slightly sweeter than sucrose, which for most people enhances the flavor of the product being consumed. Glucose is metabolized efficiently by the body. The introduction of glucose causes an increase in insulin production which in turn allows the glucose to be transported to cells and used as energy. This process stimulates Leptin production and suppresses Ghrelin production, which causes a reduction in appetite and the storage of excess Glucose. Fructose does not behave in a similar manner. Fructose does not cause a change in Insulin, Leptin, or Ghrelin production. This means that the fructose is not transported in increased amounts to cells for use as energy, appetite is not suppressed, and your body stores more of this Fructose as fat. Fructose is processed by the liver and causes an increase in the production of triglycerides. Elevated triglyceride levels have been linked to an increased risk of heart disease. Fructose can cause an increased rate of bone loss because it can affect your magnesium levels. Some of the supporters of HFCS say that the metabolizing of sucrose (enzymatic hydrolysis) is such a rapid process that there ends up being no significant difference in absorption rate. They also point to the fact that HFCS and sucrose have an equivalent caloric density, that being 4 carbohydrates per gram. If you combine these two you end up with an equivalent introduction of glucose and fructose into the body. Studies exist on both sides that both support and reject the hazards of HFCS. My take on the topic is that a diet high in sweets, be it sucrose or HFCS, should be accompanied by a high level of physical exercise.

RE: Lose fat

aquageek — Tue, 28 Sep 2004 03:29:08 GMT

And, all this time I thought my love of all things fried might lead me to weight gain.

RE: Lose fat

Former Member — Mon, 27 Sep 2004 06:45:06 GMT

Remember the days when drinking and eating all kinds of sweets would never make you fat? But now just a bite of this or drinking a can of that packs the fat on. Well, beware of the genetic engineered sweetner, for it is in everything. Unlike old fashion cane or beet sugar, which are digested naturally by the body, this high fructose corn sweetener is only digested through the liver. And that's why today's kids and myself are getting fat. You can't escape this sweetener, for it is in everything - making you fat. clyde

RE: Lose fat

Former Member — Mon, 27 Sep 2004 06:24:22 GMT

Originally posted by spintwo I recently had a doctor's appointment and found out i was 180 lbs!!!! Okay, I dont' LOOK that fat but apparently I am. What kinda workouts shoudl I do to get rid of this and total amount of yardage per day? Also eating habits? 5'10" and 180 pounds is not fat. It might be slightly heavy if you have a small bone structure and are not a body builder, but you are definitely NOT fat.

RE: Lose fat

Former Member — Sun, 26 Sep 2004 14:54:31 GMT

My desired weight is 230 so if any one else would take another 20 I would be very happy. I weighed in at 265 the other day so I reaily only want to lose 35 more. In 1964 I started the swimming season at 255 lbs and after a full season of racing ended up at a skinny 182 lbs. That was due mostly to getting into a meal in Egypt of bad food, bed ridden for two weeks and continous barfing. I swam in 12 mararthon races in ten weeks, ten of these were over 25 miles and two ten milers. If you want to know how to add weight, consume lots of food, stop training and become a couch potato. George Park www.swimdownhill.com

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Former Member — Sun, 26 Sep 2004 11:34:36 GMT

There is a good web site written by a guy, Larry Magid, who lost weight and got into shape. He writes a column, "Larry on Fitness," for the Palo Alto Daily News. The columns are archived on his web site. He has links to several "exercise calculators." These calculators can help you estimate how many calories you burn in a workout. The web site is: www.nobellyprize.com

RE: Lose fat

Former Member — Sun, 26 Sep 2004 05:16:18 GMT

It is weird but I would like to GAIN some weight(muscles).Wanna share?I am 6'1'', 162 lb., all muscles(you can study all muscles groups on me), but I think I am too light, so I am working on gaining some muscles, but find it hard to do ...So, GEOCHUK I will take about 20 lb of your 270.How does that sound?:-)))

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Former Member — Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:52:08 GMT

I'm 5'11 and in the 190 range....I dont look 190 either, and I just recently started running. It's helped me in the past, I was a hard core swimmer in high school and a few years ago, but i can't seem to make it in to a pool full of screaming kids during the day so I am trying to make myself startout with a mile or so a day. So far it seems to be helping. I would like someday to get down to 160. Seems like a way's off. Since i haven't been at that weight since high school. Good Luck.

RE: Lose fat

Former Member — Thu, 23 Sep 2004 16:55:44 GMT

Originally posted by geochuck 180 is not much I'm 270 I guess I had better do lots of Slow interval training. George www.swimdownhill.com 180 is a lot if you're 3 feet tall. All depends on height and muscle mass.

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Former Member — Thu, 23 Sep 2004 15:13:43 GMT

180 is not much I'm 270 I guess I had better do lots of Slow interval training. George www.swimdownhill.com

RE: Lose fat

Former Member — Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:19:13 GMT

Originally posted by mark_varney47 You need to look at your BMI rather than just your weight on it's own.BMI=Body Mass Index.A BMI of 20-23 is okay for guys.:D I hate the BMI scale. It's completely wrong for athletes. When I was in swimming college (D1), I was close to being considered overweight on the BMI scale because I had muscle. For example take a man who's 6'2", 210 lbs is considered overweight - 27 on the BMI scale. As for losing fat - aerobic workouts are the way to go. Lots of yardage. Get that heart rate up and keep it up for extended periods of time. How much fat you want to lose is up to how hard you want to work. In my experience doing around 12k-15k (5 days per week) yards per day will get you down around 6-8% body fat usually. 6k (5 days per week) yards per day will get you to around 10-12% fat. This is assumming a somewhat healthy diet. With a healthy diet I would assume you could get a lower body fat % and/or have to swim less yards. I've never been a really healthy eater (eat fast food about 1-2 times a week). But I try to get in around 5k-6k yards four times a week and my body fat has stayed around 11%-12% the past few years.

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Former Member — Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:19:22 GMT

long slow intervals work best for burning fat.

RE: Lose fat

Former Member — Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:32:50 GMT

You need to look at your BMI rather than just your weight on it's own.BMI=Body Mass Index.A BMI of 20-23 is okay for guys.:D

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Former Member — Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:50:13 GMT

As i stated in earlier posts, i'm 5'10

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Former Member — Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:15:52 GMT

I don't think it is right to refer to BMI for swimming. You just have to find the ideal weight where you feel best in the water. If your goal is to loose weight and reduce fat, the best training would be swimming mornings and late afternoons about 3k-4k metres per practice everyday with a proper diet... Eating AFTER practices and not before. To loose fat you should stay away from sugars and pasta type things (i.e: anything with sugar, bread, patatoes, pasta.. etc..) and fat. I have lost about 15 pounds in 3 weeks this way and I feel perfectly well. Concentrate on having long swimming sets with low intervals like everyone pointed out.

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Allen Stark — Thu, 23 Sep 2004 02:10:55 GMT

Long slow intervals are the best for burning fat during the workout. That they are best for weight loss,is a common misconception spread by many Health Clubs. If you swim faster you will burn more calories. These calories will be primarily from carbs during the workout,but in the recovery your body will replace them from fat(or from the extra Big Mac and fries) This is complicated by the fact that you need to replace glycogen with carbs and a little protein after a hard workout or your muscles will suffer. None the les, the fastest way to burn off extra fat is harder exercise.