At the U.S. Trials there was one official in every lane looking at the turns, so now that we're in Athens, how does Kitajima get away with that dolphin kick on his turn? It seemed clear to me from the above water shot, then was confirmed with the underwater. Other breaststrokers care to weigh in?
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Originally posted by Renaissance Racer
Anyone notice how many Japanese swimmers are doing well in this Olympics? They are well trained and ready for this meet. The mens team has excellent swimmers in the ***, fly, AND back ... look for them to be a surprise in the Medley relay. They won't beat the US team but might sneak in a silver or bronze.
The Japanese have been great over the years. Before I was born, 1932 in LosAngeles the American mens swim team won two golds, nearly all of the Americans were physical copies of Buster Crabbe and Johnny Weissmuller, over 6 feet 2 inches. The Japanese men swimmers averaged 5 feet 2 inches and won 5 gold swimming medals.
George Park www.swimdownhill.com
By Aquageek:
I'm sure glad the East Germans decided human testing was needed to verify this. Maybe they should have considered helium. Isn't methane already lighter than air?
Would that make you talk like Donald Duck ? A sure way for the IOC to test for this form of cheating.:)
Re: Such arrogance
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Originally posted by londoner62
I cannot believe you said that!!
Is this the posturing that makes the American attitude such an admired thing in the rest of the world?
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quote:swimr4life
That is not necessary.
My apologies to you swmr4life as well as every other I might have offended with the above quote (although I would point out it would be less objectionable if taken in context with the rest of my posting).
In mitigation, I can only say I was instantly boiling at what I inferred to be a holier than though attitude. I stand by my opinion that all attempts to eradicate abuse should be applauded and not just those that pump the most money at the problem.
On a seperate note, the swim forums (try http://www.swimclub.co.uk/ ) in the UK are humming along quite nicely thank you.
But hey, what's up at Swiminfo.com.
Everyone knows the results of tonights finals, but poor old swiminfo gave us just the 200 back results.
Come on, breaststrokers everywhere want to know if Amanda does her thing.
Interesting note on Amanda, she took less strokes in the 200 *** at Trials than Brendan Hansen!
I was trying to count her strokes in the prelims yesterday, but nearly broke my neck when the cameras switched positions. I hope they show it better tonight.
Her distance per stroke is HUGE, she can go as low as 19 stroke per 50, and gets going the last length at about 21 strokes!!! If I rememer correctly she used to be about 35 strokes per length in 1996. Rowdy is totally wrong, she nowhere near swims the same. It is entirely different, and now truly a true pull, kick (with head underwater) and glide.
Now I like Rowdy, he is the only one I know who can talk about swimming faster and longer than I can. But PLEASE, stop the stroke comments. He does not know breaststroke:D
He should be talking about what really makes Phelps and Thorpedo so great. They both start OK (Thorpedo a two foot at the front of the blocks start) and they both do several (4-5) dolphins while underwater. They both gain nearly a body length doing that!! That is huge. Nothing upsets me more than when freestylers push off the turns and immediatly start furiously kicking flutter kick. Notice those swimmers usually come up at the 5 meter mark. But Thorpe and Phelps come up 10 to 13 meters out.out This goes all the way back to the 1992 Olympics when Popov did 2-3 dolphins off the start and turns (while USA swimmers did not) and he won by the exact distance he gained in those dolphins.
Rob's right. As often as these guys post, there's no way it was an honest mistake. They just didn't think they'd get caught. Fotunately we have an administrator who isn't afraid to make the tough calls.
Originally posted by breastroker
... He should be talking about what really makes Phelps and Thorpedo so great. They both start OK (Thorpedo a two foot at the front of the blocks start) and they both do several (4-5) dolphins while underwater. They both gain nearly a body length doing that!! That is huge. Nothing upsets me more than when freestylers push off the turns and immediatly start furiously kicking flutter kick. Notice those swimmers usually come up at the 5 meter mark. But Thorpe and Phelps come up 10 to 13 meters out.out This goes all the way back to the 1992 Olympics when Popov did 2-3 dolphins off the start and turns (while USA swimmers did not) and he won by the exact distance he gained in those dolphins.
I noticed that too. In general at these olympics, the swimmer who can dolphin the most underwater seems to have a big advantage.
I know that the importance of the dolphin off the start/turns is discussed in other posts, books, coaches talks, etc., etc. - but seeing it really makes it hit me over the head.
Something to incorporate into my swimming. Look out Phelps!:D
