fly and *** flips

RE: fly and *** flips

Former Member — Tue, 01 Jun 2004 16:02:49 GMT

Originally posted by Allen Stark That advantage is slight & almost always lost to the reality of not getting a breath on the turn & therefore not getting the maximum from your underwater phase. That's what I've experienced. I tried them in practice for about a month. I didn't like them. They may have been slightly faster, but I went into O2 debt much quicker. For now I'll stick the traditional turn.

RE: fly and *** flips

Former Member — Mon, 31 May 2004 12:25:46 GMT

I had first seen these turns done at the Big 12 Championship meet this year.I DID NOT see any one of us doing it at USMS Natl's at Indy.It is being taught however.When I mentioned it to my Mom,she said they had done the same turns many moons ago,when she was little! So...........we are back to how,what when and not why,(obviously when done correctly,they are faster than the standard turns) Lori Any coaches out there??

RE: fly and *** flips

Allen Stark — Mon, 31 May 2004 09:21:28 GMT

Yes, it's legal.You must touch with both hands before your feet touch & that means you are almost always jammed in to close,but for some swimmers it's faster. That advantage is slight & almost always lost to the reality of not getting a breath on the turn & therefore not getting the maximum from your underwater phase.

RE: fly and *** flips

Former Member — Mon, 31 May 2004 08:06:14 GMT

Actually you can flip on fly and *** after you touch the wall legally (Simultaneous two hand touch) But it does take some practice.

RE: fly and *** flips

Former Member — Mon, 31 May 2004 06:00:20 GMT

I flip on fly, not ***

RE: fly and *** flips

joy — Mon, 31 May 2004 03:36:25 GMT

The only time, that I know of, when a flip turn is legal, is in the IM when u come in on backstroke u have to touch and do a complete backwards summersalt to your front and come off the wall into a breastroke pull out. U cannot flip in a breaststroke race or butterfly race. They have to be 2 handed simultaneouly touch on the turns and the finish. The USMS Rule book should give u all this info also. Good luck in learning the new, old flip turn. It does take alot of practice to do it smoothly with no waste of time.

RE: fly and *** flips

aztimm — Mon, 31 May 2004 02:02:23 GMT

I didn't think flip turns were allowed for either *** or fly (or for that matter when changing strokes in an IM). I've competed in all the *** distances in several meets, and always had to touch both hands to the wall at the same time when turning. Is there a new flip that is allowed? If so, please share the details. Thanks. Tim