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Former Member — Wed, 03 Dec 2003 10:49:32 GMT

lots of replies to my post...i know im a little late re-replying but thanks to all for making this a good post also i wish all you good swimmers a good future in your works..and keep up the good swimming;)

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Former Member — Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:25:21 GMT

Originally posted by jerrycat ..... Doing what you really, really, really, really want to do can be a scary reality--and not everyone allows themself to pursue it--because of money, it's hard to start over, giving up health benfits, or any other reason under the sun. Since you mentioned this... Just this May, I bit the bullet quit where I was working and started getting my business off the ground. It was scary as hell taking that leap. It's turning out a lot better than I had planned. It's also allowed me the flexibility in schedule to start swimming :D .

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Former Member — Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:19:51 GMT

Ya had to ask.... lemme see, what do I do... Civil Engineering, Land Surveying Yes, I can measure and certify pools ... ;) Some other stuff too, like GIS, database design, some programming, graphics design, 3D graphics, website design, whatever else people will pay me to do... ;) Some of it is explained here: www.cb-design.net

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Former Member — Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:02:06 GMT

Fascinating thread........ I'm an IT auditor with a small national professional services firm called Urbach Kahn & Werlin Advisors, Inc.. I do technology related assessments for Federal government clients in DC.

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Former Member — Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:23:41 GMT

each and every day I work with people regarding their careers. My experience has been that the older someone is, the less likely they believe the grass is greenier--many people grow out of that belief in their careers when they come to understand that work is work is work. So, many career changers change because they can't ignore their hearts anymore. It's more about doing what you really, really, really, really want to do--not what's acceptable to do, or what one would make more money, or what's least likely to upset your wife/husband, whatever. Doing what you really, really, really, really want to do can be a scary reality--and not everyone allows themself to pursue it--because of money, it's hard to start over, giving up health benfits, or any other reason under the sun. Shaky, this is great news what you're doing. Keep the faith, and ignore everyone who discourages you. You're going to make it! Jerrycat :D

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Former Member — Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:00:52 GMT

Originally posted by SearayPaul Intersting reasoning for changing carriers. ... the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. Just to be clear, that's not why I'm changing careers. I always wanted to work in film. Once I worked in film, I wanted to run my own production company. I also want to understand the market for the product of that company, so I want to work in film distribution for a while before taking the leap. I'm not leaving my current career in teevee news because I changed my mind about it. It was, from the beginning, only supposed to be a temporary sideline to regroup from my original foray into the film business. It just so happened that it was enjoyable enough, and I was successful enough at it, that the temporary gig turned into six, going on seven years. Yet every year that passed seemed to remove me further from my original goals. Now I am taking steps to reclaim them.

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Former Member — Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:10:38 GMT

Go for it Shakey! I think its great, too many folks get side tracked by other things in their life. I started my career late so I had the chance to really understand what I wanted out of life and a career before I ventured into getting the education and training needed. I'm happy where I am even though I could make a lot more money, and have a lot easier caseload practicing in the private sector. I think another factor comes into play also. To this day have other career field instrests and have considered going back to school so I could switch fields, simply because sometimes I want a new and different kind of challenge in my life. On a related note: I was reading an article the other day that was discussing the impact that living longer will have on us. This futurist believes that people will HAVE TO HAVE two careers over their life spans in order to support themselves into their old age! AHHHHHH, can you imagine working 60 years?!

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Former Member — Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:11:05 GMT

Intersting reasoning for changing carriers. I know that I am old because of what I am about to type. I have noticed over the years that no matter what one does or does not do, how important or how unimportant a position is, how well or how poor of a job one does, how finacially successful or how broke one is the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. That must be because of the human spirit or because we live in the greatest country in the world. We learn from the very begining that we can succecd at anything, except spelling, if we only dream hard enough and work hard enough at an endevor. Isn't America great. Shakey I sure hope that your dreams come to be reality. Just save a little time for this site as I enjoy your humor. By the way I am a husband, dad, and pharmacist. Have a great day Paul

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Former Member — Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:20:51 GMT

Originally posted by aquageek The NC gov was either Hunt or Easley, depending on when you did the filming. It was Easley. I could have looked it up, I guess, but I was feeling lazy. Hunt came strolling through our newsroom once, but I didn't interview him. My job is cool, but not as cool as you might think. The first time you go to the White House is exciting. The second time is just like the first time, and the third time is just the same. You quickly realize that it's just another government building with government employees. Everything is so controlled and premeditated that you don't really get much by being there in person that you wouldn't get from watching teevee. Once you've shot a couple of "grip 'n grins" between politicians, it doesn't matter whether it's Colin Powell, Thabo Mbeki, George W, Pervez Musharraf or Arnold Schwartzenegger, the events are all exactly the same and will probably someday be accomplished by preprogrammed robot doubles of the dignitaries instead of the politicians themselves. Even shaking hands with Colin Powell is mostly meaningless, because it's really just a reflex for those people; they meet so many other people that none of them would remember me a month later. The thing I'll miss is the think tanks, which the regular public doesn't usually see. We've all heard the nutty reasons George W and friends have given for going into Iraq, all boiled down to easy soundbites and slogans formulated by top advertising consultants; but the conversation is entirely different coming from the mouths of Richard Perle and James Woolsey when they give academic briefings at AEI. At first they scare the crap out of you; then what they're doing starts to make a lot more sense, even if you still don't agree with it. I'm going back to school to change careers, or rather resume a career I left off too early. I started out working in the film industry, making films. It was tough physically and financially, and I needed a steady job, so I kind of fell into teevee news as a temporary thing. I was good at it, so I figured I would see where it would go. It's been a fun ride, but I really want to get back to the entertainment industry. I had been leaning toward entertainment law, because I have always enjoyed questions of law and felt it would be a good way to get back to the industry. At the same time, however, I eventually want to build up an equipment rental house and production company, and that goal seems to be at odds with the law career. That's what had me thinking of doubling up in law and business. However, I did so well on the GMAT (750) and had such a high undergraduate GPA (3.89) that my b school prospects are much better than my law school prospects. That, and talking with lawyers, helped me to realize that b school alone would probably be the better path. What I would like to do from this point is get my MBA and re-enter the motion picture industry in the distribution end, learning how that phase of the business works. I am particularly interested in international distribution, as well as domestic distribution of foreign films. I think I can get into Wharton at Pennsylvania, where they have a pretty strong media and entertainment club, as well as strong entrepreneurial and marketing majors. With my split goals, I might double major. I'm also negotiating with my boss for time off to visit Harvard and learn more about them, but I gotta say that I REALLY liked my visit to Wharton and the way they run things there. I'm not sure that anyone wanted to know all this, so I'm sorry if I've rambled too long. It just looked like some explanation was in order.

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Former Member — Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:55:39 GMT

Originally posted by aquageek I Stay with you very cool job. I think we are all envious. Shaky, at least you HAVE a job!! I'm finding work hard to come by (and so are a lot of others...). Good luck with it, though!

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Former Member — Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:55:36 GMT

Shaky, giving up your profession? What's brought this on? This is life changing stuff you're talking about. One thing for sure is that we've got one crack at living on earth...do what you want to do before the time is gone. Best of luck, JoAnne

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Former Member — Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:40:31 GMT

Well, you can say that about the other side too. Personality I wasn't a big supporter of the Kosvo/Bosnia adventure myself but as Shaky states think tanks can give more reasons for us getting involved with the Balkins when we did in the 1990's.

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aquageek — Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:32:08 GMT

I have to tell you Shaky it sounds like you have one sweet job. Might be hard if you have a family. Everyone I know has an MBA and all we do is sit around computers crunching numbers all day long. Stay with you very cool job. I think we are all envious. The NC gov was either Hunt or Easley, depending on when you did the filming.

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Former Member — Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:39:33 GMT

Gee Shaky, maybe you should go to school for engineering - not the MBA/law thing. Better yet, is there a degree in swimology? Imagine the classes Freestyle 101 Advanced Techniques in Body Roll Ethics in Lane Sharing The History of the xxxxx Stroke Physics of Water, Air and Body Temperatures Oganic (Hair Maintenance) Chemistry Advanced Pace Clock Management Philosophy of TI :p

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Former Member — Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:19:24 GMT

I haven't been around lately either, because my job took me to Canada for a week, then I went off to visit a business school. I'm a television news photographer, AKA "cameraman," for an independent news service in Washington, DC. I cover our fearless leaders for overseas news networks in Singapore, South Africa, India and New Zealand. I also cover their fearless leaders when they come to North America, which is why I was in Canada: I spent the week following South African president Thabo Mbeki around Toronto and Ottawa, into their Parliament and even into Prime Minister Jean Chretien's office. I have been to the White House for bill signings by our own silly President, and I have shaken Colin Powell's hand after videotaping his personal "happy birthday" wishes to Nelson Mandela. I have shadowed most of India's top brass and ALL of Singapore's top brass and followed Pakistan's president Pervez Musharraf for a week all around Washington. Friday, in between my Canada trip and my school tour, I had a one on one with Hilary Clinton for the New Zealanders to learn all about her book (zzzzz). I have interviewed four sitting state governors (Chiles and Bush in Florida, Siegelman in Alabama and the NC guv, whose name escapes me at the moment) and a whole host of Senators and Representatives, and I've now shot video of every Democratic Presidential candidate except Clark; we've shot Dean several times, because we all think he's going to get the nomination and need the freshest video on hand as possible. I even got to shoot interviews with Wyclef Jean from the Fugees and Chaka Kahn. It's been interesting and exciting, but I've decided to give it up. I spent the day today at the University of Pennsylvania looking into my prospects as an MBA student. I was considering trying to double up in law and business, but several lawyers (including Matt S.) have just about talked me out of it. I'm trying to find a way to get up to Boston to tour Harvard next. I'm glad to see so many aviation folks on the list. I have my private pilot's license and have found pilots to be very cool people. Flying isn't practical for me now, but I plan to continue on to my instrument rating after I get school paid for. Someday I'll have my own plane. Also: Originally posted by Scansy Mechanical engineer (yawn!) I don't think that's boring. Ten, twenty even thirty years from now, you'll still be able to drive by buildings you did and say "I did that." People who build things are cool; in twenty years, it's unlikely anyone will give a crap about the video I shot in Canada last week, but someone will still be using your work.

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drip'nwet — Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:28:09 GMT

Mark in MD, We could use an organist out here!! I can see Sunday morning Masters meets taking on an other event - Event 1: Hymn sing and prayer!!

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Former Member — Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:05:41 GMT

Thanks Denise for your offer and thinking of me; however, the commute would be a tad l-o-n-g. Besides, we are starting the process of fund raising for a new organ (instrument) here at my Church. I don't want to change postions now? Now let's think of hymns for swimming. Let's see . . . here's a start: Eternal Father Strong to Save (for open water events). That reminds me, what hymn do you associate with changing type faces when working on a document? Simple. "Come Thou Font of Every Blessing." I'd better stop . . . Matt S. will be after me . . . again.

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Betsy — Mon, 10 Nov 2003 05:29:07 GMT

I haven't been reading the forum regularly for the last few weeks. I find this thread fascinating! One of the best things about friendships within Masters Swimming is the mixture of ages, lifestyles, and professions. I have to brag that I have the very best job - retirement. I taught math in junior or senior high schools for 30+ years. I loved it, but the freedom to set my own schedule is wonderful. Anna Lea, ever thought of teaching? I know the pay is not great, but it is satisfying and math jobs are available. Betsy

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Former Member — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:02:16 GMT

Vice President Sales/Marketing for a Part 145 FAA Licensed Repair Station. Sell specialized custom aviation tooling, sell and repair cargo handling and restraint system parts, manufacture aviation non-powered ground support equipment, load test and recertification of aviation maintenance support equipment, all to airlines around the world.

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Former Member — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:45:44 GMT

Mo Chambers, Mountain View Masters Kerry O'Brien, Walnut Creek Masters

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Former Member — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:33:47 GMT

Peter are you familar with the SCA-Society for crative anachorism. They are in the tourment period and fight with wooden swords to actual scale. I was involved with them about 20 years ago. Anyway, they are some of the biggest consumers of the sci-fi/fantasy. I have not read a sci-fi fantasy books in years.

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Former Member — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:28:04 GMT

Good for you! Yup, he was a sex-crazed poet. Philosophers don't as often seem to have been sex-crazed. (I'm new-ish here, and sheepish about posting a new thread just to get me-specific advice, so I'll sneak it in here: Can anyone recommend a stroke-coach for a lousy but eager swimmer in the Stanford or San Francisco area? Thanks!)

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Former Member — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 13:04:39 GMT

Horace, here are a couple that I have used, and are very close to you: Tim Sheeper, Menlo Masters Tom McCrae, SOLO swim club They both have a small number of reliable stroke coaches that they may refer you to. but there are so many other swim programs in the area, look for links at http://www.pacificmasters.org , check the pacific USS site, also available as a link from the pacific masters site.

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Former Member — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 11:59:19 GMT

Thanks, Bert. Mo Chambers is no longer coaching, according to the MVM website (maybe she coaches privately now?). Walnut Creek is a bit of a haul for me. Originally posted by Bert Bergen Mo Chambers, Mountain View Masters Kerry O'Brien, Walnut Creek Masters

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Former Member — Thu, 06 Nov 2003 11:44:42 GMT

Bookseller. I own my own general bookstore, new books only; specializations in scifi/fantasy, mysteries & childrens.