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Former Member — Sun, 02 Dec 2007 16:04:48 GMT

tyr racetech's which have the silicone seal. (yes, I do have rings but it does not bother me too bad) i wash w/ baby shampoo and leave googles on the entire workout w/ no fog. A tip I received from my 70+ swimmer friend...THANKS! i use to spit but I got an eye infection one time. Not sure if that was why but am leary of using spit anymore.

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Former Member — Sat, 01 Dec 2007 09:04:58 GMT

I'm back into the pool after 24 years, and when I'm set to do something I like to have good gears. I read a lot on this board but no reply yet at everything because I'm struggling still with my breath to finish a lap of a drill for most of my workout, (I can run easy for 45 min a good pace but in the pool I run out of gas too fast) so it's still the time to listen only and nothing more; but about the goggles I've something to said. I've bought 6 different pairs of speedo's. from the ultra expensive speed socket to the ultra cheap sprint to find out the best for me. All of them in the right condition fogged, some goggle a little bit others ones more, the water temps is the most important factor, more warmer less fog simply, but there're some little "tricks" that can help. - the anti-fog coating help. - The dirty on the inside len help the fog so it's needed to clear it - wet the face before to wear it, and let's some drop of water to get caught inside the cup, they will absord (some) heat from the skins (I thinks) and help to keep the inside-outside temp difference close -> less chance to fog. After few workouts the inside of google will be dirty due at the oils of skin/eyelash, so it's needed to clear it and you must rub a little and the anti-fog coating will be wipe out/demaged. To clean my goggles I use a little drop of handwashing detergent and a gently rub with my finger, after the rinse I get cristal clear lens, the dishwashing detergent isn't as good at the job for me. After I use the anti-fog spray, rinse, dry. After few workouts I repeat the procedure. I get my googles to be fog-free in a lot of workouts. Just my 2 cents.

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Former Member — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:22:51 GMT

Island Sox , I think you have solved the goggle fog mystery. Body warmer then the water and the goggles are cold. I like you thought the fog proof stuff was a marketing trick as I posted on this thread 4 years back. (wow time flies) Any way I am wondering if there are any tricks to get the goggles warmed up? I will try getting mine really warm in the sink , shower, or hair dryer before I go in the pool next swim.

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Former Member — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:52:29 GMT

I've also tried quite a few goggles. I get the best fit and use from the Nike H-3000s. They last about 6 months (or a little more) completely fog- and trouble- free .... TYR Velocity looks like they'll be good also. I also got some good advice on this board ... when you find the goggle that works well for you buy a bunch. They might be discontinued soon. Good Luck! I second it. My Speedo's SuCKed for fogging up! I decided Life's too short to swim with fogged up goggles, and so finally broke out one of myriad new pairs waiting to be used. My Nike Remora III's are fog free (without having to spit in them- which spitting wouldn't even work on the Speedo's with how bad they were). The Nike's never seem to have the best optics though (looking through their plastic never seems quite right, IMO. My TYR's have all been pretty good for being fog free with OK optics. My favorites are the Finis- Lane 4's for being/staying fog free and with decent optics.

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Former Member — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:01:25 GMT

Try putting a very small drop of Johnson's No-More-Tears baby shampoo (or any generic brand) on each lens and rubbing it around with your finger. Never fogs! A small trial size bottle (1.5 oz) lasts me a couple years! Swan

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Former Member — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:23:29 GMT

I've never had ANY goggles that did not fog and wasted $$$ buying that de-fog liquid. The reason why goggles fog is because your body temperature is warmer than the water temperature and until the goggles "warm-up" some, they will fog. Saliva works great, as does some liquid detergent like some others here recommended; all scuba divers here use liquid detergent on the inside lens then rinse out. Scuba masks are good for about a full hour without defogging. The same holds true for goggles. When the ocean is cold here (80 degrees), my goggles fog up for about 15 minutes and I take them off, use saliva, and go on about my way. When the ocean is hot 90 degrees and above, they do not fog at all.

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Former Member — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:29:37 GMT

1) Spit 2) Rub gently 3) Rinse 3 is optional, especially if you're surrounded by folks who don't believe in the power of chlorine.

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Former Member — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:28:35 GMT

Wow. I can't believe this is so hard. Every morning, just before I get in the water, I lick the inside surface of my goggles, then rinse the goggles in the pool quickly before I put them on my head and get it the pool. My goggles do not fog for the duration of a 75-80 minute practice. As any scuba diver knows, saliva only works on dry lenses. Eventually the goggles get a bit dirty from who knows what. Then I simply use a small squirt of liquid dishwashing detergent and wash the inside of the goggle with my finger. Rinse, dry, and the goggles are good to go again. This works with Speedo anti-fog (or not) goggles, and various TYR and Nike goggles I have used. Factory anti-fog has never worked as well as saliva and I have never purchased an antifog chemical.

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Former Member — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 08:03:36 GMT

My goggles stopped fogging when I cleaned them with a little vinegar window cleaner (1Tbs vinegar or less per cup of water.) That also made them seal to my face and stop leaking. The silicone rubber seal must have been covered with some skin oil or something that was making them leak. That lasted about a week and they started fogging up again and I freaked because it was so beautiful to look through them without fog. I had just gotten used to thinking fogging was a way of life that couldn't be avoided. It was like having my sight restored. The joy, the glory. So I immediately tried cleaning them with the soap provided in the shower stalls of my club's natatorium--GOJO Luxury Foam Hair & Body Wash. www.gojo.com/.../product.asp I just rubbed it around with my fingers. Works like a charm. Brilliant, clear plastic every time. Lasts a few hours, then just clean them again.

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Former Member — Tue, 29 Apr 2003 15:20:25 GMT

Another update on the fogging issue: The devil made me find an ultrasonic cleaner on sale and buy it ($30 @ The Sharper Image) - at least that is what I told Herself, The Court From Which There Is No Appeal. The results have been unconclusive to date (about 1 week). It hasn't delaminated the antifog stuff as yet, but the goggles also only seem marginally cleaner. Have tried an number of solutions as well. More as it happens... Shaky - Re the spit issue: Try eating a few raisins (or purple grapes) a few minutes before. I'm not sure why, but it does seem to help the anti-fogging properties. -LBJ

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Former Member — Tue, 29 Apr 2003 14:51:27 GMT

I wanted to thank everyone for their replies and great ideas and give an update on how I'm handling the problem. I had noticed that the Speedo anti-fog solution I had been using without success seemed soapy and would foam up a little when I rinsed it off the goggles (as per Speedo's instructions). Based on the advice to soak the goggles in soapy substances, I decided to experiment a little more with the Speedo stuff before risking damage to the foam on my Barracudas with soaking. Speedo says to coat the lenses and then rinse. I do that daily right after I get out of the pool, except that now, every several days I coat the lenses (without coating the foam seals) and let it sit there for several hours before rinsing. The solution dries to the lenses (or at least thickens) and seems to give a better coating that way. I don't let it thicken like that every day, but the quick applications on the days in between seem to help keep a coating on there in case a little too much gets washed off in the pool. I tried just leaving the stuff in there without rinsing, but that was a bad idea. The first thing that happened when I got into the pool was that I pushed off the wall at a funny angle and got a momentary little leak. It wasn't much, but there was enough water in there to dissolve some of the fog juice AND reach the corner of my eye when I turned my head to breathe. It wasn't painful, but the soapiness of it left an unpleasant "sticky" feeling in the corner of my eye throughout my entire workout. Now I shall always rinse before using. I'm also more careful now about washing the fog juice off in the pool. I have an overwhelming urge to take my goggles off in between sets, and I've had to suppress it. I also realized that I sometimes sit the goggles on the edge of the pool when not wearing them (for kicks and such), and they get washed into the gutter (we have wiiiiide gutters) where the coating gets washed off. I think that just being more careful with them in the pool has helped. There was one weird thing I discovered. I had used spit in the past and made a conscious effort to try it again, just to see if it worked better than the fog juice. Maybe there's something wrong with my saliva, but it didn't work! Not at all! Thanks again everyone for the suggestions. I can swim with much more confidence now that I can see the creatures in the pool to dodge them.

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Former Member — Wed, 09 Apr 2003 16:19:42 GMT

Someone mentioned Tyr Velocity - they work well for me. I've given up trying other kinds at least for the time being. I'm kind of a sucker for new goggles, I've bought several that looked good and seemed to fit until the first couple laps, then I end up putting the old ones back on. If only they came in bright colors! I also use the saliva method for anti-fogging, it's there and always works. But I appreciate the cleaning suggestions, I'll try those too.

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Former Member — Wed, 09 Apr 2003 14:10:41 GMT

Thanks everyone for the replies so far. I have some good ideas to work from now, so hopefully I'll soon be able to see something other than just the hazy line on the bottom. It's a little scary not being able to dodge those hairy things flitting around in there. If there are more ideas, please keep 'em coming.

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Former Member — Wed, 09 Apr 2003 08:17:23 GMT

As all SCUBA and snorkelers know very well, the best solution (no pun intended) is old fashioned spit (or as Mickijean puts it so nicely, saliva).

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Former Member — Wed, 09 Apr 2003 07:12:51 GMT

Here is an experiment that I have be wanting to try to clean my goggles, but don't have the equipment: Has anyone tried using a small ultrasonic jewelry cleaner on their goggles? Assuming that it wouldn't delaminate the anti-fog material from the polycarbonate/plastic lenses, it would probably get them very clean. Of course it would work as well or better with lenses that don't have anti-fog coatings. We must have someone here who has one for professional (jeweler, optician, etc) or personal use.

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Former Member — Tue, 08 Apr 2003 15:41:48 GMT

I've also tried quite a few goggles. I get the best fit and use from the Nike H-3000s. They last about 6 months (or a little more) completely fog- and trouble- free .... I'll have to try the soap soak method at my next interval! and see if I can stretch that out. I think it's interesting that they are also about a $10 goggle. ($8.50@ if you order a bunch from 4seasons). I've used the racetech ... which are great, but just don't fit me quite as well as these. Unfortunately, I think the trick is to try quite a few pairs until you snag the exact shape and fit for you. As far as a few months trouble-free, it looks like you can expect to be in the $9-12 market. TYR Velocity looks like they'll be good also. I also got some good advice on this board ... when you find the goggle that works well for you buy a bunch. They might be discontinued soon. Good Luck!

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Former Member — Tue, 08 Apr 2003 13:57:00 GMT

I see lots of swimmers use the Barracudas.. They will not fit all swimmers but no goggle will. Another goggle that was great for fog resistance was the Leader Pro-Fit but they are no longer made. I use the Barracuda Standard and find them very comfortable and watertight.I do have to let abit of water in to prevent fogging as Emmett says. The Barracuda anti fog drops do work pretty good, you have to dry the lens then apply the drops work it on the lens then dry it off with a soft cloth. It lasts maybe two swims. The anti fog coatings on all the goggles are a joke> I think it is a marketing sales tool. I will post a new thread called Barracuda Swim Goggle tips with more on my experience with these goggles I remember when I swam red eyed and goggle less, because the chaep goggles left marks and I saw the first Barracudas. I thought what a goofy looking goggle but they look comfortable and watertight. I tried a pair after a friend got some and I got over being "goofy" and decided to swim and be comfortable.

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waves101 — Tue, 08 Apr 2003 11:13:43 GMT

I have experimented with several manufacturers goggles over the past few years. The best and longest lasting, for me, are the VIEW - spyders, marketed by TUSA. I gave up on the Speedos as the foam did not last long and they no longer would conform to my face. The VIEW's last for several months before starting to fog and I have used some pairs for a year without leaking (they do fog after this duration of use but not so bad that you can't see the clock). These can be order off the internet for about $10 each. Good Luck.

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Former Member — Tue, 08 Apr 2003 10:14:56 GMT

I too use the barracudas. They get a little funky around the foam and every couple of weeks I wash them in phisoderm and water which breaks down the body oils and does seem to clean the foam. I also rub some into the lens area to take off any body oil from my lashes (also makeup). One time I used what I thought was a weak bleach solution on the pads and managed to "unglue" one of the lens. Expensive lesson in cleaning! I do rinse them in cool water when I get home and hang them up to dry (I swim evening so they don't cook all day in a trunk). I think alot of the fog/condensation is a result of the room vs water temps. The lens starts to fog and then you dip your head into the water and it clears up. I've managed to keep some of my barracudas for 3-4 years before they're destroyed (lens loosens, snap=on clasps break). They are a little pricey but they do fit my face (after 1-2 swims), keep alot of the water out, don't damage the skin around my eyes (plastic surgeon noticed that before it got too bad), and most of all--do give me some vision correction (without going rx on the lens) so that I can SEE the end of the pool! Just for reference--I wear both types of the B-300. The anti-fog and the plain. One has a flat profile (kinda wrapped) while the other has a raised profile. I wear the flat profile one (tinted) in the summer outdoors and the clear raised profile in the winter.

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Former Member — Tue, 08 Apr 2003 09:55:35 GMT

I too find washing up liquid is a good home solution to the fogging problem.

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Glenn — Tue, 08 Apr 2003 07:26:57 GMT

I use the Barracuda B-300. Once I get the nose bridge the right length and use them a few times, I have no problems. The are comfortable and do not leak. As far as anti fog is concerned I have used the good old saliva method for years and it works great. You need to wipe it around with a finger or your tongue and give it a quick rinse. And don't dip the goggles in the water before anti fogging them. If for some reason they do fog up on me, I just let in a drop or two of water and the sloshing around keeps them clear. Good luck.:)

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phm41 — Tue, 08 Apr 2003 05:34:40 GMT

A cheap solution to the fogging problem is to use a drop of baby shampoo in each lens of your goggles. Rub it around and then rinse it. As long as you don't keep taking your goggles off and on, it will last your whole workout. Rinse well, or it can get in your eyes. Our coach even rubs some on the outside of each lens and he feels this helps too.

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Former Member — Tue, 08 Apr 2003 05:05:40 GMT

I use View goggles, they fit me well and the optical lenses are not nearly as expensive as Barracuda. They do fog but the Watergear anti fog solution (or a good ole fashion lick) works well. I 'shampoo' my goggles, cap and zoomers with anti-cholrine shampoo, rinse well and dry everytime I use them... makes them last longer.

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Former Member — Mon, 07 Apr 2003 05:37:07 GMT

For what it's worth, one of the things that I have found with anti-fog goggles is that after a while the anti-fog film gets dirty and that dirt causes fogging. My solution has been to soak my goggles for an hour or so in a mild solution (2-3 drops in 16 oz cool H20) of dish washing detergent (e.g. Dawn). Then I rinse the goggles and soak them in clean water for an hour or so to get the last of the detergent out. (IMPORTANT: DO NOT NEGLECT THE CLEAN WATER SOAK!) This has worked very well at extending the usable anti-flog life of my goggles. However, the type of goggles I wear have silicone seals and straps which are impervious to anything short of a direct missle strike, so I'm not sure how the foam-type goggles would do with this. If you try this, occasionally switching the detergent to something else is good since certain types of dirt resist certain detergents. (A drop or two of UltraSwim shampoo works well in these cases, BTW. I've also had some success with a very mild solution of OxyClean.) If you don't have anti-fogging film on the inside of the goggles, soaking them in a strong solution of baking soda works wonders, but again, no idea what this does to foam. Barracuda goggles - UGH! I spent over $100 on a pair with custom ground lenses and gave up trying to get them to not leak after 4 months of endless fiddling. I'll take the raccoon eyes any day.

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Former Member — Mon, 07 Apr 2003 05:33:42 GMT

Have you tried Tyr racetech? You can get them metallized or clear. They're not cheap but they're the best I've ever owned.