https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/general/13406/teaching-breaststrokeHi Swimming Teachers! I worked in the UK as a swimming instructor and recently moved to Israel and I have come across two main differences in teaching styles. 1. In the UK generally front-crawl is taught before breastroke, in Israel the oppositeen-USTelligent Community 12https://community.usms.org/thread/291525?ContentTypeID=1Tue, 06 Jul 2021 16:49:52 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:baf061f6-5c86-4d2a-8e09-f5eb6aea8ca602ER5<p>Funny thing i heard. Jeremey Linn and Amanda Beard as kids did scissors kick until it was corrected. I was surprised since I was an average breastroker and didn&#39;t have tht problem as a kid, but I didn&#39;t start until 12 year old.</p><div style="clear:both;"></div>https://community.usms.org/thread/207674?ContentTypeID=1Sat, 29 Feb 2020 05:23:13 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:35c5ca96-1d26-4f9f-825a-2f935a2c479cAllen StarkHistorically, everyone in Europe learned breaststroke first as crawl didn&#39;t really exist before late 19th, early 20th century. Evidently, some areas still teach breaststroke first. In my experience, poor breaststroke technique is easy to teach, good is much more challenging. This leads to many people having to unlearn bad habits.<div style="clear:both;"></div>https://community.usms.org/thread/207662?ContentTypeID=1Thu, 27 Feb 2020 09:47:42 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:d24d4c6d-007c-4523-86af-bc7bcd62415eCalvin SOkay thanks very much. What do you think about breaststroke vs crawl? After over three decades of doing both, I think that one is bad for the knees and the other is bad for the shoulders (when done in excess!). But I won&#39;t quit because like the Beastie Boys once said, &quot;you can&#39;t, you won&#39;t, and you don&#39;t stop.&quot;<div style="clear:both;"></div>https://community.usms.org/thread/207601?ContentTypeID=1Thu, 27 Feb 2020 08:53:12 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:47cdb50e-5911-4545-a4fa-f37d35d204f0Calvin SI always used a lawn chair, and I had their legs hanging off the end. I mean, whip kick always involves movement of the knee, but the question probably boils down to this: Is having their legs hang off the end of the chair, bench, w/e going to promote their knees being the first thing to move, and is it going to promote the knees moving ? These days breaststroke kick is all about a narrow, fast kick. You want the lower legs brought up behind almost like beginning a butterfly kick, then whipping them around, keeping knees closer together. For kids that just need to &quot;learn&quot; the stroke, I don&#39;t think it matters one way or the other. But I think whatever helps enforce good habits is best. If the kid with his legs hanging off the back of the chair isn&#39;t bending his knees out with the first motion of his kick, he is fine. But for a kid who IS doing that, having the upper part of their legs on the bench will probably help reinforce the proper kicking motion!<div style="clear:both;"></div>https://community.usms.org/thread/207615?ContentTypeID=1Thu, 27 Feb 2020 07:16:16 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:01615454-a177-4de2-bb22-623701e27031Former MemberOkay thanks very much. What do you think about breaststroke vs crawl?<div style="clear:both;"></div>