Speed differences among strokes

RE: Speed differences among strokes

Former Member — Mon, 03 Feb 2020 06:39:37 GMT

Thanks for all the replies.

RE: Speed differences among strokes

Former Member — Mon, 03 Feb 2020 06:38:49 GMT

Update. I believe I found the issues. Breaststroke technique improves over decades ago so it's faster. Upper-body strength/power drops significantly from decades ago, so fly and back are significantly affected. However, fixed fly technique and now it is faster than breaststroke.

RE: Speed differences among strokes

Allen Stark — Wed, 25 Dec 2019 12:18:10 GMT

I wonder if you have less flexibility extending your foot than flexing it. Extension flexibility is important for flutter and dolphin kick, whereas flexion flexibility is more important in breaststroke. If this is true, your free is probably less affected than fly and back.

RE: Speed differences among strokes

Former Member — Wed, 25 Dec 2019 07:59:57 GMT

RE: Speed differences among strokes

Former Member — Mon, 23 Dec 2019 17:19:09 GMT

Age related improvements? My fly is slower than 20 years ago but, still better than by *** stroke. I had expected that too, for me. So what seems like an anomaly is why I posted this thread.

RE: Speed differences among strokes

Former Member — Mon, 23 Dec 2019 16:28:31 GMT

I am no expert by any means but i'm almost 100% sure that it has nothing to do with psychological state of yours. Butterfly is the most intense of them all as far as i know so you are doing better with those that require less strength/stamina to perform.

RE: Speed differences among strokes

Former Member — Mon, 23 Dec 2019 15:38:50 GMT

So your bk/fl got worse and your br/fr improved, or just bk/fl only got worse with age? Freestyle now is about as fast as 36 years ago, but I have practiced it for one year. Breaststroke is improved, without any specific practice. Bk/Fl were slower, also without serious practice.

RE: Speed differences among strokes

Former Member — Mon, 23 Dec 2019 11:35:04 GMT

Interesting way to calculate where we stand per stroke, or event, is by using the event rankings database for the age group. Just find the percentage and compare to the other stroke. Somehow, in practice, I cannot get my time (any event) even close to what I can do in race. (5 seconds difference per 100m approximately). But either in relative (age-group records) or absolute (time) term, my breaststroke is currently superior to my butterfly and my backstroke. 36 years ago, my butterfly and backstroke were much faster than my breaststroke. I doubt if technique alone can be the reason because I haven't really worked on any of them specifically. So I question whether physiological change (due to age) might be the cause.

RE: Speed differences among strokes

Former Member — Mon, 23 Dec 2019 11:27:15 GMT

For butterfly I'd suspect it is because you are out of shape and your form needs work. I'm pretty sure there's nothing special physiologically (aside from injury or disability, which you don't mention) about you that predisposes your freestyle or backstroke to be slower than your breaststroke. I bet your core is not tight at all and you're wiggling side-to-side like a fish. Are you kicking? My freestyle is way faster than breaststroke. Only butterfly and backstroke is slower than the breaststroke. But I agree about the core. Will work on that and see if it makes some improvement. Thanks.

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orca1946 — Mon, 23 Dec 2019 11:15:30 GMT

Age related improvements? My fly is slower than 20 years ago but, still better than by *** stroke.

RE: Speed differences among strokes

__steve__ — Mon, 23 Dec 2019 09:02:48 GMT

So your bk/fl got worse and your br/fr improved, or just bk/fl only got worse with age?

RE: Speed differences among strokes

__steve__ — Sun, 22 Dec 2019 10:24:23 GMT

Interesting way to calculate where we stand per stroke, or event, is by using the event rankings database for the age group. Just find the percentage and compare to the other stroke.

RE: Speed differences among strokes

sickfish — Sun, 22 Dec 2019 07:52:08 GMT