New Swim Logging/Tracking at the USMS-Swim.com Site

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Judy Anttonen — Fri, 28 Jan 2022 20:02:03 GMT

I do my own tracking. I use a Fitbit to run. (It can't get wet). I won't sign up for any other challenges.

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kristilynn — Thu, 13 Jan 2022 17:08:27 GMT

I've noticed that my swims aren't automatically loading into the FLOG since the new year. I also, double-checked to make sure that they are linked. I really don't mind as I always had to edit them anyway since my Garmin never gets the yardage right because it doesn't count kick.

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Kyle Deery — Thu, 13 Jan 2022 14:20:44 GMT

swimark we will look into this and I'll send you a DM for more info.

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swimark — Wed, 12 Jan 2022 22:00:23 GMT

The swims being automatically entered into the USMS FLOG no longer work for me as of December 2021. All accounts are linked. As a test, I unlinked then relinked, but nothing transfers over like it did prior to mid December 2021.

Garmin to Swim.com transfers ok (most of the time), but from Swim.com to the USMS FLOG does not. So I've gone back to manually entering my swims into the FLOG.

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Kyle Deery — Sun, 09 Jan 2022 15:10:26 GMT

Sylvia does this page help? It has links to the FLOG and how to link to swim.com if you want to try it. Let us know if you have any further questions.

www.usms.org/.../swimcom-integration-information

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Sylvia — Sat, 08 Jan 2022 18:38:31 GMT

So, is there anyway to use the FLOG method as before? I agree. I just signed up for the membership thinking it would be easy access from swim.com to USMS. Help. I would prefer using FLOG as I remember it. Can someone tell me how to do it; or tell me how to set up a spreadsheet in Excel. The Apple Watch workout for pool swim is great, except for no way to do cumulative totals. I really only have one friend that tracks swimming like I do. She has a Garmin and she is pleased with that, and I have an Apple, but don't want a Garmin, as the Apple has all the other features I' m interested in. I hear the new watches will have additional features, and I suspect will add in totals eventually, but can't afford to purchase a new one. I've only had my watch for about 2 years.

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Sylvia — Sat, 08 Jan 2022 18:35:47 GMT

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Sylvia — Sat, 08 Jan 2022 18:34:42 GMT

So, is there anyway to use the FLOG method as before? I agree. I just signed up for the membership thinking it would be easy access from swim.com to USMS. Help.

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Former Member — Wed, 14 Aug 2019 07:06:41 GMT

Nah. I have a spreadsheet to track all workouts, not just swims. I record run/walk, bike, swim, pushups, squats, and misc., then calculate weekly and annual totals. I have logs stashed away that go back to the 1970s. I have a lot of spreadsheets to track my different stuff: one for my swim training, and swim / run time trials one for my swim / bike / run races one for my orienteering races and many more

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Former Member — Sat, 03 Aug 2019 16:29:56 GMT

I appreciate everyone's replies so far. For myself I'm still using FLOG and will likely either start up an Excel spreadsheet or go back to paper log books so I can enter more kinds of information, especially different kinds of note sections I can either search or scan by keywords. The Swim.com site is great if you have a tracker you like but I don't use one and don't plan on using one.

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Chris Stevenson — Thu, 01 Aug 2019 03:56:51 GMT

I received the email but had completely forgotten about it until now. So I just downloaded the swim.com app, and it looks like it synched to my Apple Watch. I see 2 issues: * Kicking: my watch doesn't record it. This typically isn't very much, 3-500 per workout. * Over-estimates of some o/w: when I swim at Barton Springs, my watch can record distances far exceeding what I actually swim. After the swim sometimes I'll look at the map that it produces and it could have me 100+ yards outside of the water, with paces of :40-:50 per 100 yard pace! For o/w, when I do point-to-point swims, it is usually fairly accurate, but not so much for loops/laps. For best results, I've found it easiest to just keep track of the distance I swim myself. I've seen someone at Deep Eddy (an odd distance of 100 feet long) who has some sort of Abacus he keeps on deck while he swims. For Barton Springs, the laps are about 1/4 mile, so 20 of them are 5 miles, pretty easy. In general the Apple Watch will (sometimes greatly) underestimate swims where there is kicking or a significant amount of time underwater, no matter what app is used. I use the MySwimPro app, which is a competitor to Swim.com. I don't care about the tracking at all, but what I find useful is the ability to (a) either use somebody else's workout if I don't feel inspired to create one and (b) the tracking of the workout on the watch. If you follow the workout on the watch, it will credit you the appropriate amount of yardage (while looking at your HR, etc) because it assumes you are doing the workout as written. I haven't used the Swim.com app -- it doesn't seem to want to load on my watch (maybe b/c I am running the iOS beta on my phone) -- but hopefully it has something similar. I haven't tested either the app or watch in an OW swim, but I suspect the problem is the GPS hardware not the app.

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Sojerz — Wed, 31 Jul 2019 08:48:58 GMT

As swymtoms indicated above, the FLOG is still there, so you can continue to log your work outs the normal way and don't have to link to Swim.com. I also assume that one can enter data into the usms FLOG even if/when you do create the link and that the the two will sync.

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Mark Usher — Tue, 30 Jul 2019 10:15:44 GMT

I put myself in the old school category also. I don't have a tracking device and have trouble justifying the expense of purchasing one. I just work off the pace clock during practice and manually log everything later. I also include notes to myself critiquing my workouts that I like to refer back to later. As far as technology goes, I find video feedback much more valuable than just raw numerical data. I ask one of my coaches to shoot some video of my stroke every few weeks, especially if I've been working on some specific stroke improvement or correction.

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Kyle Deery — Tue, 30 Jul 2019 06:08:01 GMT

USMS has received feedback over the years about modernizing the FLOGs/swim workout tracking. This integration with Swim.com provides a way to link your FLOG/My USMS account to a more modern platform. What was released is phase 1. There are new features planned over the next year in phase 2. We would also like to hear your feedback on what features you would like to see or issues you are having. Please send them to marketing@usmastersswimming.org. Linking the accounts is not a requirement and you can disconnect your accounts at any time.

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aztimm — Mon, 29 Jul 2019 02:48:41 GMT

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Patrick W. Brundage — Sun, 28 Jul 2019 05:05:24 GMT

You lost me at "Here's."en.wiktionary.org/.../here's :angel:

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Calvin S — Sat, 27 Jul 2019 02:56:34 GMT

Here's the solution, much easier than all this tech nonsense ... Remember how far you swam in a workout (practicing memory is good for preventing dementia) Enter yardage/meterage in Excel (column A = date, column B = yardage) Learn how to use Pivot Tables and functions like DATE and MONTH when you want to aggregate stats You lost me at "Here's."

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webgal — Sat, 27 Jul 2019 02:15:55 GMT

I have one word for you - WHY? The old FLOG was easy to use, you could easily compare your distance to other people and to your previous months/years. I entered my two swims for yesterday in the app and I guess it didn't like it because it logged one swim as Friday and the other as Saturday. The pace (time per 100) is meaningless, particularly when you are doing drills or kicking - it's simply a measure of the time you spent in the water divided by your mileage. You may have provided "new" features, but the old features that were actually pretty valuable are gone. Regarding the leaderboard - it doesn't look like it's accurate at all. I can't find my name on the listing, no matter how many times I filter it. Also, is there a way to filter by country and state and to keep the filter settings locked in so I don't have to go fix it every single time? Honestly, I don't really care how many miles some dude in Berlin claims to have gone since 1999. Maybe the powers that be did the research ahead of time to see if this was something that would be valuable to us FLOGgers, but this is the kind of thing that actually makes me NOT want to sign up for USMS next year since the FLOG was one of the most valuable and motivating factors of my membership. I love technology perhaps more than the average person, and I never swim without my Apple watch, but this seems like technology for technology's sake.

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Denizen — Wed, 24 Jul 2019 10:07:15 GMT

Greetings All: I assume everyone got the email from membership about the new USMS-Swim.com partnership for workout tracking. The FLOG here will connect with a new account at Swim.com and provide a lot of new features especially for people who wear fitness trackers. Anyone signed up over there yet? What do you think of the changes? I downloaded the app, and have Garmin Connect set up with it, but my pool swims are not syncing, not sure what the problem is yet.

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Patrick W. Brundage — Wed, 24 Jul 2019 07:46:44 GMT

Nah. I have a spreadsheet to track all workouts, not just swims. I record run/walk, bike, swim, pushups, squats, and misc., then calculate weekly and annual totals. I have logs stashed away that go back to the 1970s. Wow!!! Good for us Sumo. I thought my logs back to the early/mid-80s was old. DanNICELY done. I have my old handwritten workout journals from high school (early to mid 80's). I'm kind of bummed because when I went off to college, I started tracking these in a 'primitive' word processing document (whatever existed on the original Macintosh computers where everything resided on floppy disks) and lost those over time. I got back into tracking with Excel in the early part of this century.

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ForceDJ — Wed, 24 Jul 2019 06:56:53 GMT

I have logs stashed away that go back to the 1970s. Wow!!! Good for us Sumo. I thought my logs back to the early/mid-80s was old. Dan

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Sumorunner — Wed, 24 Jul 2019 05:44:58 GMT

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Patrick W. Brundage — Wed, 24 Jul 2019 04:15:14 GMT

I downloaded the app, and have Garmin Connect set up with it, but my pool swims are not syncing, not sure what the problem is yet.Here's the solution, much easier than all this tech nonsense ... Remember how far you swam in a workout (practicing memory is good for preventing dementia) Enter yardage/meterage in Excel (column A = date, column B = yardage) Learn how to use Pivot Tables and functions like DATE and MONTH when you want to aggregate stats

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smiley92407 — Tue, 23 Jul 2019 08:29:03 GMT

I do not have Swim.com account and I do not have a tracking device. I may be old school but I just enter what I did and that is good enough for me. I could not determine if only those who had an account would have their data merged or if everyone gets merged. I for one do not want to merge.