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FindingMyInnerFish — Mon, 06 Mar 2017 09:27:33 GMT

Sounds fun--so you don't necessarily have to have graduated (or even attended) the college you pick (my college didn't have a swim team). One thing I'm curious about... track and field has a couple age graded scoring calculators, where you enter your distance, time, and age, and the calculator does the rest. Are there such things for swimming? Here's an example of one for running: www.howardgrubb.co.uk/.../wmalookup06.html I couldn't seem to find anything comparable on Google for swimming. But always possible I overlooked something.

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knelson — Mon, 06 Mar 2017 01:45:30 GMT

Sounds fun--so you don't necessarily have to have graduated (or even attended) the college you pick (my college didn't have a swim team). That's what I would recommend. This idea really has nothing to do with NCAA swimming. It's just a way of representing your alma mater or whatever college you prefer to represent. My college has an annual alumni swim meet where you compete against current team members and other alumni. Yes, alumni meets are commonplace, but as far as I know always pit the alumni versus the current members for an individual school. This would give the alumni a chance to compete against other schools.

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Karl_S — Sun, 05 Mar 2017 11:58:21 GMT

I love the idea, but rather than glomming it onto Nationals, why not see if we could schedule it during the SCM season and make it an SCM meet. One of the 'reasons' I hear from former competitive swimmers as to why they don't race Masters is that they don't want to compare their current self to their younger self in terms of times. As very few US college teams ever race in SCM, this would remove that perceived barrier. really like this idea. This entire thread has the makings of a great idea!

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Patrick W. Brundage — Sun, 05 Mar 2017 10:07:38 GMT

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Sumorunner — Sun, 05 Mar 2017 07:12:42 GMT

Problem is, you're preaching to the choir. Of course we would love it, but what about the people who would control it?. There are 5 college swim programs within 20-30 minutes of where I sit. Some D1, others D3, but for alumni that shouldn't matter. However, someone needs to get at least one of those athletic directors excited about such a thing. How would you put a bug in their ears?

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smiley92407 — Sun, 05 Mar 2017 01:58:37 GMT

My college has an annual alumni swim meet where you compete against current team members and other alumni. It is great to see people that you haven't seen in years. So that is one college down and many more to go.

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jpetyk — Thu, 02 Mar 2017 11:33:10 GMT

You would probably have to break it down by division too. Is a D2 or 3 represented school going to be able to compete with Stanford alumni, for example? Even adjusted by age, I see folks my age that were are faster now than I ever was in college.

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knelson — Thu, 02 Mar 2017 11:24:15 GMT

if you did this at nationals, i think you would find that the lmsc of the hosting nationals would have the nearest large universities win just like a club in that hosting lmsc usually does. This is probably true, but I'm not sure it's a negative. It would just encourage even more locals to attend the meet.

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sunruh — Thu, 02 Mar 2017 11:18:57 GMT

while certainly an interesting idea if you did this at nationals, i think you would find that the lmsc of the hosting nationals would have the nearest large universities win just like a club in that hosting lmsc usually does. as an example: when was the last time nebraska masters was in the top 20 of nationals? yet they were right at the top when it was at omaha! same goes for north carolina masters. what are the odds that Cal or Stanford would have won when we were at Santa Clara for Nats? USC or UCLA when held at Mission Viejo? or going back UT when held at Austin? i think all it would really show is that when nats are in town, all the locals show up! steve

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knelson — Thu, 02 Mar 2017 02:31:36 GMT

I never swam for the colleges from which I am an alumnus, and I graduated from 3 different places. Which would I choose? Take your pick! The idea is this would be purely for fun. Teams could certainly recruit free agents to score more points, but there wouldn't be any awards or records up for grabs, so I doubt this would be a major concern. In fact it could make it more fun. The reality of this concept is that your average swimmer has little chance of scoring except possibly on relays since only the top 16 score in each event. That's a pretty high bar.

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Sumorunner — Thu, 02 Mar 2017 02:28:12 GMT

I never swam for the colleges from which I am an alumnus, and I graduated from 3 different places. Which would I choose?. I have often seen an alumni 5K run during homecoming weekend, but it's for grads of that school only. They are not large gatherings but fun anyway.

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knelson — Thu, 02 Mar 2017 02:11:26 GMT

Effectively (from a scoring results/scoring standpoint) it would be an entirely separate meet. Yes, it would be more work to score, but after the age conversion was applied to the results it would be just like scoring another meet.

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orca1946 — Thu, 02 Mar 2017 01:49:42 GMT

A good ides abut, how would that make the poor scoring table keep up with possible dual affiliations?

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ForceDJ — Thu, 02 Mar 2017 01:27:58 GMT

Having never graduated from college...I hereby choose to align myself with either University of Texas at Austin, or University of California. Dan