Flags to flags

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julieannjohn — Sun, 19 Feb 2017 07:49:44 GMT

Thanks so much. That's where I originally read it and didn't know where!

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opeleroy — Sat, 18 Feb 2017 06:09:34 GMT

More info on the drill (and benefits) here-- www.yourswimlog.com/.../ It's all about developing speed. Done from a dead stop (sculling in place) and getting up to max speed as quick as you can. It's one of Vlad Morozov's favorite drills as well.

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julieannjohn — Tue, 14 Feb 2017 11:07:14 GMT

Exactly what I wanted to know! Thank you so much.

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Chris Stevenson — Tue, 14 Feb 2017 04:25:41 GMT

I regularly give a similar set to the older kids on my summer league team, I call them "buoy sprints." I modified it from a set given by the University of Richmond women's swim coach. Each round consists of something like this: #1: Off the blocks and sprint to the far buoy (15m). #2: Turn around and from a dead stop, sprint to the other buoy (about 5m). #3: Turn around and from a dead stop sprint to the wall, do a race turn, and push off to the near buoy (about 25m). #4: From a dead stop, sprint from the buoy to the wall, with a race finish (about 15m). "Dead stop" means exactly that, no pushing off the bottom or pulling on lane lines. We'll do a couple rounds, with different strokes. Coaches stand by the target buoy to help those doing backstroke. As other people mentioned, starting from a dead stop develops power. High turnover rate trains your nervous system. And we emphasize getting power from the kick, good starts, turns, underwater streamlines, and finishes. Keep in mind, of course, that the longest race in our summer league is a 100, and most races are 50s.

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julieannjohn — Mon, 13 Feb 2017 10:50:49 GMT

Yeah that's what it is. Sprinting from a dead stop. Thank you. Ok so what can anyone tell me about that? Like, the science of it.

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Karl_S — Mon, 13 Feb 2017 07:53:48 GMT

Sprinting from a dead stop in the water is a drill to build power. It can be extremely stressful. I think Fort (when she is healthy) does something like this.

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julieannjohn — Sun, 12 Feb 2017 08:23:48 GMT

Yeah, I don't know where I read it. The dog paddling part is just to get to the flags and not part of the workout.

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VintageDirt — Sat, 11 Feb 2017 11:03:14 GMT

I've seen some water polo players turn before they reach the wall. They use both arms to change direction without touching the wall. It makes sense for a water polo workout. Don't know about the dog paddle part.

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knelson — Fri, 10 Feb 2017 10:57:07 GMT

Nope. Never heard of it either. Not even sure I understand the purpose.

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gobears — Fri, 10 Feb 2017 09:58:47 GMT

I haven't heard of it but maybe someone else has?

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gobears — Fri, 10 Feb 2017 03:37:23 GMT

Well, from what I read (can't remember where), it's like you're trying to see how fast you can go without the benefit of pushing off the wall. Not sure there is a way to time yourself very accurately doing that. Are you getting this from a triathlon training site? Where you want to swim without walls? I suppose you could do sprints this way (though I would never suggest dog paddling out of or into the wall).

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julieannjohn — Fri, 10 Feb 2017 02:57:55 GMT

Well, from what I read (can't remember where), it's like you're trying to see how fast you can go without the benefit of pushing off the wall.

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julieannjohn — Thu, 09 Feb 2017 10:31:38 GMT

No, I mean dog paddle to the flags and then swim fast until you get to the other set of flags. I thought that was a "thing".

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gobears — Thu, 09 Feb 2017 05:53:50 GMT

Are you talking about swimming fast "from flags to flags" in a longer swim with turns? That would mean working walls - fast into and off of each wall during a longer swim. Practicing fast turns, in other words.