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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>What should threshold/CSS pace *feel* like?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/general/12529/what-should-threshold-css-pace-feel-like</link><description>It seems as though there are a few methods out there to attempt to determine what your anaerobic/aerobic divider zone is for targeting training for distance events. I&amp;#39;m having a bit of trouble determining on my own if I am actually swimming at this &amp;quot;sweet</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: What should threshold/CSS pace *feel* like?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/199224?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2016 12:38:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:ad5008a3-c4fb-49c0-a427-4de38817fed8</guid><dc:creator>m2tall2</dc:creator><description>What&amp;#39;s CSS?
The same thing as threshold.  At least, I think it&amp;#39;s supposed to give you the same pace as Threshold.  I think it&amp;#39;s just what swim smooth calls it to make it seem magical, but I found a lot of other web resources using that term.  It&amp;#39;s supposedly &amp;quot;Critical Swim Speed&amp;quot;.  But the only speed I think is truly critical is the one you&amp;#39;re going to race at.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What should threshold/CSS pace *feel* like?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/199216?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2016 12:20:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:78034fac-0ef1-4932-98a4-a9247266a6b1</guid><dc:creator>knelson</dc:creator><description>What&amp;#39;s CSS?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What should threshold/CSS pace *feel* like?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/199209?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2016 12:04:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:6dc00f77-5201-4a34-b71a-b83baa6a8d92</guid><dc:creator>m2tall2</dc:creator><description>&amp;gt; What should threshold/CSS pace *feel* like?

Maybe like you have a piano on your back at the end?

That&amp;#39;s the feeling I had been getting by doing the 3x300 on 1:00 rest test.  I used that method for several months this winter, retesting every 4 weeks, and was positively dead at the end of a Threshold set and it was impossible to hold T-pace on repeats of 200 yards or more.  Couldn&amp;#39;t do it.  Quite honestly, when I had done a set of say 17x100 on 15 seconds rest, that pace was extremely difficult.  A big fat piano at the end.  

Right now I&amp;#39;m using the 400/200 test results and what the CSS calculator spit out (much slower than how I swam the 400 &amp;amp; 200).  A set of 20x100 on 15seconds rest feels easy at the beginning but do-able at the end.  Like I tried but if a coach wanted to throw me on the blocks for some sprints after a short recovery swim I&amp;#39;d be able to put up one or two good numbers.  Definitely not a piano feeling.  If I do longer intervals, like 200&amp;#39;s or 300&amp;#39;s, I can actually hold this pace unless the set passes 30 to 35ish minutes and then I start to tank.

I like the idea of not quite working so hard to get faster.  Certainly, my recovery between swims has been much better.  I&amp;#39;ve actually bumped up the pace in tiny bits a couple times since the beginning of August and am swimming slightly faster at the same level of effort.  I did the same exact workout with an 18x100 set today that I had done 20 days ago on similar rest and it was 1.5 seconds per 100 faster on average.  I could have gone faster both times but not without completely wasting myself.  I&amp;#39;m willing to see how far I can get with this new, easier feeling before my improvement gets stale.

I did an open water 1.2 mile swim at a race this past weekend and I went very close to my new T-pace, which makes me feel like I just might be on the right track.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What should threshold/CSS pace *feel* like?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/199160?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2016 13:07:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:2cd80eaf-38b4-4721-9b12-b3d8ddd673c5</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Flystorms , 3000 m free style , trying to keep highest possible even speed.
One may go over TH speed for few hundreds at the beginning , but not later then 1000m.
After that ,as soon as max effort applied , one goes with true TH speed for that current date.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What should threshold/CSS pace *feel* like?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/199131?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2016 11:31:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:5991b91e-77e0-420e-890b-c7844ba231b0</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Best is T-3000 with max effort , 10x200 is also reasonably good , if rest doesnt exceed 10-15 sec. But effort should be max especially at last few 200s. Acidosis doesnt let you go faster then TH.
As for feeling - You should be tired upon completion , but have ability for some good sprints and/or recovery swimming, since you is about to consume glycogen at 200s , but not fats and phosphocreatine.
TH test should be performed on a day after rest or recovery session,preferably at the same day of the week.
To do every 3-4 weeks.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What should threshold/CSS pace *feel* like?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/199198?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2016 09:34:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:58cd2559-8ea9-457b-8c98-0d946dc78165</guid><dc:creator>smontanaro</dc:creator><description>&amp;gt; What should threshold/CSS pace *feel* like?

Maybe like you have a piano on your back at the end?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: What should threshold/CSS pace *feel* like?</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/199156?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2016 08:18:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:878d3ec0-851e-4937-94ba-e43f00bcabe5</guid><dc:creator>flystorms</dc:creator><description>LED what does this mean &amp;quot;Best is T-3000 with max effort &amp;quot;?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>