DQ because of a backstroke finish rule- WTF?!?!

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davidcliff — Fri, 04 Mar 2016 09:05:54 GMT

I always keep a toe out of the water...like a periscope. :bolt: /\/\Bingo!/\/\ When you reach back make sure you do a big dolphin kick and make sure your feet break the surface.

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orca1946 — Fri, 04 Mar 2016 04:53:28 GMT

Our really good swimmers finish legal BUT us nearly mortal swimmers need to watch each other to make sure we are legal.

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Mark Usher — Wed, 02 Mar 2016 02:28:11 GMT

Our coach just warned us about this rule a week ago before our upcoming meet. Most folks didn't know anything about it. Mark

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Former Member — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 17:35:17 GMT

Sorry to hear about your DQ Martin, hopefully it wasn't your best swim in your age group. Thanks. steve. The time was 2:21,00 in 200m on LCM and it was my 2nd best time for the age group and that was unshaved and not full tapered, so its a good time for the moment...(best time is 2:20,6 two years ago at my first year at the age group 35-39). But the point is how to get over it? My goal was to win every single 200m backstroke race in my age group at the nationals and this was my 3rd win in a row but will not count. Thats a reality check: you have your goals and dreams and than suddenly BOOOM...It's like a BANG. I heard of this rule before the race, but didnt think about that much.... I mean you can't just go through every aspects in your race that could going wrong... I have to trust in my instinct. And the instinct is to get quick on the wall with my hand and not think about beeing underwater or to have my toes above the surface... Its a stupid rule, but I have to learn from this to move forward.

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knelson — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 12:55:30 GMT

I know it stinks to get DQed, but I don't really think it's a stupid rule. The idea is you must surface by 15 meters and then stay on the surface until the next turn or the finish. Finishing underwater, by definition, goes against this. Just start finishing legally every day at practice and it will become second nature.

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__steve__ — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 12:11:46 GMT

I have to learn from this to move forward.These things just make us more competitive and motivated to excel

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orca1946 — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 11:29:58 GMT

Worked on this @ practice last night. It seems as if I do keep my feet just above water when I dive back at the finish. I hope the officials see it this way.

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Former Member — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 06:13:56 GMT

Yeah. This video helps me also a lot: www.youtube.com/watch

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Rob Copeland — Mon, 29 Feb 2016 12:09:34 GMT

that rule has been around at least 1 full year. "Some part of the swimmer must break the surface of the water throughout the race, except it is permissible for the swimmer to be completely submerged during the turn and for a distance of not more than 15 meters (16.4 yards) after the start and after each turn." has been in the USMS/USA-S rule books since 2014. Prior to 2014 you could resubmerge at the finish. I assume the German federation introduced a similar rule then as well. btw you still finished first... congratulations!

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orca1946 — Mon, 29 Feb 2016 11:00:09 GMT

So I can't reach back to touch the wall and be totally under water? I have been doing this for a long time. OH OO I need to change this , thanx for the tip.

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sunruh — Mon, 29 Feb 2016 09:48:24 GMT

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Rob Copeland — Mon, 29 Feb 2016 09:30:16 GMT

Pausing at 0:26, could this bk to br turn result in a DQ?USMS does not use underwater officiating, so based only on this angle, there is no DQ.

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rxleakem — Mon, 29 Feb 2016 09:01:07 GMT

I'm not a backstroker so I never swim backstroke in meets - but don't most swimmers just make sure they have their toes above the water if they dive back for the wall? I always keep a toe out of the water...like a periscope. :bolt:

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Former Member — Mon, 29 Feb 2016 08:22:37 GMT

complain to your FINA rep. that rule has been around at least 1 full year. a lot of the elite swimmers were diving (submerging) on their backs and dolphin kicking to the wall instead of swimming. so, if you dolphin kicked 11m off the turn wall and then dolphin kick the 5m into the wall...that is 16m a clear violation of the 15m rule even if broken into 2 parts. with no clear way to measure how much you did earlier in the length and now on this 2nd part. they simply made it illegal to do at all. doesnt matter if you got 1st or last, your swim was illegal. LOL. My swim was fine and there are still a lot of swimmers today like E. Seeboom that do this everytime but don't get disqualified. And I didn't do any kicks and the and..I just looked back at my hand how long I have to glide to get to the wall. The rule is absolute stupid. So you can't look back how you touch the wall becuase of the danger to get under water and be submerge for one moment... So next time you better cruch your finger or the whole hand right?? How dumb are the FINA people, who didnt thnik this through??

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Sportygeek — Mon, 29 Feb 2016 06:01:16 GMT

Martin, you can look back as you approach the wall and still be legal under the current backstroke rules. You can do a lunge finish and still be legal under the current backstroke rules. I'm a Swimming Australia official. At the first major event in my state after the introduction of the new rules, many swimmers were disqualified. By the next major event (a couple of weeks later), coaches had taught swimmers to either stick a toe up as they finished, and/or roll slightly on their side so their armpit was out of the water.

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__steve__ — Mon, 29 Feb 2016 05:18:51 GMT

Sorry to hear about your DQ Martin, hopefully it wasn't your best swim in your age group. Unfortunately we don't get to find out what DQ times were. www.youtube.com/watch Pausing at 0:26, could this bk to br turn result in a DQ? As he touches the wall, his feet and hands are under, not sure if belly is surfaced, but from a judges standpoint it could appear as such.

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Rob Copeland — Mon, 29 Feb 2016 04:17:09 GMT

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gobears — Mon, 29 Feb 2016 03:24:45 GMT

LOL. My swim was fine and there are still a lot of swimmers today like E. Seeboom that do this everytime but don't get disqualified. And I didn't do any kicks and the and..I just looked back at my hand how long I have to glide to get to the wall. The rule is absolute stupid. So you can't look back how you touch the wall becuase of the danger to get under water and be submerge... So next time you better cruch your finger or the whole hand right?? How dumb are the FINA people, who didnt thnik this through?? I'm not a backstroker so I never swim backstroke in meets - but don't most swimmers just make sure they have their toes above the water if they dive back for the wall?

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Allen Stark — Mon, 29 Feb 2016 02:36:18 GMT

Yes this is a relatively new rule,yes it :censor: to be DQd like this.