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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Kicking without the kick board</title><link>https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/general/12406/kicking-without-the-kick-board</link><description>How important are kick boards? Can I ditch my kick board and just use a snorkel so I can put my head down and breathe or is there a benefit that kick boards offer that I wouldn&amp;#39;t get if I did ditch the kick board? It gives me such a headache.</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: Kicking without the kick board</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/198225?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2016 14:42:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:6590795d-b389-492f-90e4-40ecf28e4157</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I am a breaststroker and my knees don&amp;#39;t like kicking br on my back either... :)

I do different things for different reasons:
Kicking on my back helps me focus on keeping the extension from my torso to upper legs (not tucking the knees in) and to stretch out the thighs.
Kicking without a float on the front is good for working feel and distance per kick.
Kicking with a float I find good for &amp;#39;training&amp;#39; reps - the board creates some resistance and I do a lot more kicks than I would without&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Kicking without the kick board</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/198214?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2016 08:31:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:e55d41a2-7c02-4299-86ca-07ddf3c25585</guid><dc:creator>gobears</dc:creator><description>BR kick on my back seems to hurt my knees. PS I am not a very good br kicker.

I am a breaststroker and my knees don&amp;#39;t like kicking br on my back either... :)&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Kicking without the kick board</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/198264?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2016 06:42:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:cb551371-cd4b-4715-9abd-9d2ec676f27e</guid><dc:creator>orca1946</dc:creator><description>At 70, I need to plan ahead for my knees. If it hurts  --- then I back off.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Kicking without the kick board</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/198148?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2016 12:34:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:70f181db-2111-4a40-9933-796cfa2e6ed9</guid><dc:creator>Mullenski</dc:creator><description>This thing is really cool and you can do flip turns with it:

&lt;a href="http://www.speedousa.com/accessories/training-gear/flotation-aids/pull-kick/style-7530402"&gt;www.speedousa.com/.../style-7530402&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Kicking without the kick board</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/198176?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2016 12:22:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:d09bf217-1c0e-4da4-b432-d07d326eae66</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Thanks for all the input! After weighing what everyone had to say, I decided to ditch the kick board. I also discovered an added benefit to ditching the kick board -- my swim bag now has room for more &amp;quot;toys&amp;quot;! :woot:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Kicking without the kick board</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/198160?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2016 02:43:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:020675df-8c5f-4d4c-8327-3832c2455150</guid><dc:creator>orca1946</dc:creator><description>BR kick on my back seems to hurt my knees. PS I am not a very good br kicker.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Kicking without the kick board</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/198117?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2016 09:09:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:4992fb4f-166f-48ce-a5a5-e643e875b073</guid><dc:creator>davidcliff</dc:creator><description>Streamline Dolphin Kicking on your back is good to develop a good up kick for your fly!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Kicking without the kick board</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/198122?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2016 04:55:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:8f6cc769-0bc5-4ed2-ad98-f32ffabb3918</guid><dc:creator>orca1946</dc:creator><description>Yes --- off topic with the fly kick on the back really makes you kick up to the surface. I have been doing this drill for fly kick for 25 years&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Kicking without the kick board</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/198079?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2016 11:11:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:1b1e9463-c47d-4ad8-89ed-ca86f599e1e8</guid><dc:creator>knelson</dc:creator><description>I believe that a kick board is a useful device for the *** stroke. With a kick board, you can concentrate on the proper kick without the distraction of breathing and timing.

Have you tried breaststroke kicking on your back?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Kicking without the kick board</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/198106?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2016 04:40:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:aa5279b7-adb0-4d8e-a636-2be0258d5522</guid><dc:creator>secondheart</dc:creator><description>Have you tried breaststroke kicking on your back?
Yes. when I kick without a board I kick breaststroke on my back. I believe kicking breaststroke on a board simulates the kick better than on your back without one, because the body&amp;#39;s movement trough the water is different (possibly because the butt and knees are moving in opposite directions when you are on your stomach versus back)&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Kicking without the kick board</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/198096?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2016 03:19:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:d6d29cc4-47bc-4b6c-8755-d43f4e935516</guid><dc:creator>m2tall2</dc:creator><description>Besides - it&amp;#39;s hard to do a front or back flip turn with a board.

A little off the topic of this post but I just learned a drill recently designed to teach kids to do a proper flip turn by holding a kick board in each hand behind them, kicking into the wall and doing their flip turn.  Teaches them to keep their arms up and not moving while flipping.  I bet this technique could be applied to create a fairly smooth turn with the board.

But I agree, I&amp;#39;d rather just open turn with a board.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Kicking without the kick board</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/198067?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2016 10:34:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:759a468b-539c-4c47-9b5f-b22dbdaf264d</guid><dc:creator>secondheart</dc:creator><description>I believe that a kick board is a useful device for the *** stroke. With a kick board, you can concentrate on the proper kick without the distraction of breathing and timing.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Kicking without the kick board</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/198057?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2016 11:53:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:efa8f96d-adf9-4149-8417-d956bd4aec35</guid><dc:creator>orca1946</dc:creator><description>Why would use a floatation device that makes it easier when you want to work your legs more? :confused:
 Besides - it&amp;#39;s hard to do a front or back flip turn with a board. :agree:You guessed it, I never use one.:D&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Kicking without the kick board</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/198007?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2016 10:03:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:8052e52b-756d-41ea-ac14-b1d52cfac46a</guid><dc:creator>Elaine Krugman</dc:creator><description>The benefits to kick boards over other types of kick sets are:
- great for socializing
- unlimited air
- can feel like a break between tough intervals (where you&amp;#39;re supposed to cruise on purpose)

I&amp;#39;ve ditched the kick board for any set that&amp;#39;s purpose is to be a better kicker.  But I had a lovely cool down chatting with a pool mate using a kick board earlier this week - still helped the muscles slow down and at that point I couldn&amp;#39;t have given another inch of good technique anyways.

Agreed!  The only time I use a kick board is if the front desk staff decides to put the 70&amp;#39;s station on the sound system, and if others at the pool don&amp;#39;t mind if I crank it up a bit.  At the end of a workout, I can muster up the energy for one last kick set before cool-down, if I have great classic rock tunes to inspire me. &amp;#8203; 
:dj_dance:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Kicking without the kick board</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/197999?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2016 09:37:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:0ca594aa-b077-4c7e-a3b7-2fd1d044e2e2</guid><dc:creator>m2tall2</dc:creator><description>The benefits to kick boards over other types of kick sets are:
- great for socializing
- unlimited air
- can feel like a break between tough intervals (where you&amp;#39;re supposed to cruise on purpose)

I&amp;#39;ve ditched the kick board for any set that&amp;#39;s purpose is to be a better kicker.  But I had a lovely cool down chatting with a pool mate using a kick board earlier this week - still helped the muscles slow down and at that point I couldn&amp;#39;t have given another inch of good technique anyways.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Kicking without the kick board</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/198041?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2016 06:38:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:a62f0ee8-05d5-4953-bbef-b7a73b15850f</guid><dc:creator>Elaine Krugman</dc:creator><description>I like using a board, but I also use it face-down with a snorkel.  My shoulders like it that way

I do 90% of my kicking without a board for the same reason; however I do free kicking without a snorkel.  I will either do a scull to grab a quick breath or do *** pull with a flutter kick.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Kicking without the kick board</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/198022?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2016 02:24:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:304de7d1-ddbc-4988-bf38-ca6f143494a4</guid><dc:creator>__steve__</dc:creator><description>I like using a board, but I also use it face-down with a snorkel.  My shoulders like it that way&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Kicking without the kick board</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/197984?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2016 08:51:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:ed0b6b9b-8750-4706-ae57-e1722c9051c8</guid><dc:creator>smontanaro</dc:creator><description>I gave up kickboards a couple years ago. I&amp;#39;ve been nursing a sore shoulder for awhile. Kickboards just put needless strain on my shoulder. Besides, when kicking without a board, you can focus on body position, break into a drill, kick on your back, side or front, do all sorts of things you can&amp;#39;t do with a board. I actually like kicking on my back with my arms up (elbows or higher out of the water).&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Kicking without the kick board</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/197963?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2016 07:25:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:61314df9-e2c0-422c-8993-ccad1ecc1590</guid><dc:creator>knelson</dc:creator><description>Nope. Some would argue you should never use a kick board. If you don&amp;#39;t like using one, don&amp;#39;t use one!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>