NCAA Swimming

RE: NCAA Swimming

ande — Tue, 04 Apr 2017 11:29:12 GMT

I just witnessed the greatest short course swim meet in my life at the 2017 Men's NCAA Swimming Championships. I don't know if I will ever see a more exciting race in the 1650 Free where there were 5 lead changes and where 5 swimmers during the race were under the American Record and the first 4 swimmers were under the American Record. Ryan Murphy won the 100 and 200 Back and joins only John Naber to accomplish this in those two events and joins only Pablo Morales and Brenden Hansen to accomplish this in NCAA history. To witness Caeleb Dressel almost break the :40.00 second barrier and go 43.58 in the 100 Fly was exciting to see and makes you think about how far swimming is going and how low can records keep falling. This was another race where more than 1 swimmer broke the previous record and I remember when this record stood by Austin Staab for years and now in just the last 3 years, 3 swimmers have gone faster. 200 *** another record and Licon going under 1:48 and when 3 years ago nobody thought that Kevin Cordes record would be touched for years. 400 IM and the record goes down to 3:33.42 and for many years no one could get under 3:36. 200 Fly at 1:37.35 and when Phelps went under 1:40 that was a big deal when he set the record. All of the relays were fast and impressive and only one record remains from the 2009 suit era and that is the 200 Free Relay at 1:14.08 and Texas went 1:14.58. The surprise was NC State's 800 Free Relay at 6:06.53 and the only relay that Texas didn't win and I remember when hitting 6:10 was a big deal and now that has dropped 4 seconds. If you ever get a chance, you have to see an NCAA meet live. It was and still remains that fastest short course meet in the world and the most exciting meet to witness. The team element and relays make it such an exciting event. All incredible, I can't wait to see how all these swims translate to Long Course and the 2017 World Championships. FYI Kudos to NC State, on UT's 4x200 relay, I have a feeling that if Joseph Schooling swam on that relay, it might have been a much closer race, especially if he was 100% healthy.

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sunruh — Mon, 27 Mar 2017 09:58:17 GMT

So much fast swimming (and falling records) in this meet. Remember when the discussion used to be that getting rid of tech suits would virtually halt all such record-setting? in meters, it has chris. how many WR's fell in Rio? 100 *** and what else? in usa with scy...better turns can get better times. not as important lcm. p.s. just remembered that 100 back from leadoff in relay - same jammer style suit used

RE: NCAA Swimming

gobears — Mon, 27 Mar 2017 01:40:15 GMT

I apologize too, I too am a passionate swim fan and a UT Mens Swimming Alum and shouldn't have written what I wrote in my last post that is now deleted. Won't happen again. Ande Some of us hope that BraunMan will now stop trolling about secret sauce and Coach Marsh. If your possibly misdirected passion results in better behavior on his part, I'm thankful ;-)

RE: NCAA Swimming

ande — Mon, 27 Mar 2017 01:15:21 GMT

I apologize, I realize I could have been much more diplomatic with the way I voiced opinions. As a swimming fan, it was disappointing to see an athlete like Schooling bow out of the 200 fly in that way and not have what would have been an great battle with Conger as last year. Its my opinion that if he had the juice to swim as fast as he did in 100 free and 100 fly (where he swam faster this year than last, but was still touched out by Dressel), he may not have beaten Conger but certainly should have been much closer than he was in the 200. Although in retrospect, perhaps the time off after Rio caught up to him more in the 200. I apologize too, I too am a passionate swim fan and a UT Mens Swimming Alum and shouldn't have written what I wrote in my last post that is now deleted. Won't happen again. Ande

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Former Member — Sun, 26 Mar 2017 14:09:24 GMT

RE: NCAA Swimming

Former Member — Sun, 26 Mar 2017 13:00:45 GMT

I wonder what Dressel could go in the 200 free based on his closing ability in the 100 fly and 100 free. Swimming that last 50 in 20 high for free and 22 high for fly...wow.

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knelson — Sun, 26 Mar 2017 12:02:55 GMT

I really apologize for saying "beetlejuice" three times and bringing BraunMan into this thread. For the record English is the most widely spoken language in Singapore.

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Gary P — Sun, 26 Mar 2017 10:29:03 GMT

She hurt her back. She said it was OK, but her SDKs went from awesome to not that great. I thought she hurt her back in 2014?

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Frank Thompson — Sun, 26 Mar 2017 06:32:08 GMT

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Chris Stevenson — Sun, 26 Mar 2017 05:54:51 GMT

So much fast swimming (and falling records) in this meet. Remember when the discussion used to be that getting rid of tech suits would virtually halt all such record-setting? My mind is still blown by that 40.00 100 free. It seems like just yesterday (to me) that breaking 20.0 in the 50 almost guaranteed you another swim at night.

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Allen Stark — Sun, 26 Mar 2017 04:31:19 GMT

I thought she hurt her back in 2014? Yes, and then in 2015 she swam that amazing 200 free. I don't have any inside information,I just saw a video saying her back was still bothering her and analyzing her SDK from 2012 and 2016. Something wasn't right for her last year.

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sunruh — Sat, 25 Mar 2017 08:33:29 GMT

all this talk about ncstate and the 4x200 free relay yet, they only have 1 guy make the top 16 (7th) and score points in the 200 free. whats up with that???!!! what a spoiler by caleb dressels in the 100fly...wiped the record board clean with that 22.88 back half of the 100fly...wow!!! was 4th at the 50 and then out swam the olympic gold medalist

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Chris Stevenson — Sat, 25 Mar 2017 06:00:28 GMT

Ignorant kid basher! Schooling is sick with stomach flu symptoms. My guess is he skipped the 2 fly to rest up for the relay. It's just swimming & UT seems to have this win locked down. He's a Singapore citizen. Brits, Aussies and many other NCAA athletes speak with perfect English. Hook Em He didn't skip, he swam gamely but didn't make either final. Tough event to do if you are sick. Hopefully he will recover for the relay. As for the rest: ignore the troll, he's a broken record at this point.

RE: NCAA Swimming

ande — Sat, 25 Mar 2017 05:27:54 GMT

Ignorant kid basher! Schooling is sick with stomach flu symptoms. My guess is he skipped the 2 fly to rest up for the relay. It's just swimming & UT seems to have this win locked down. He's a Singapore citizen. Brits, Aussies and many other NCAA athletes speak with perfect English. Hook Em How about Schooling, Singapore boy, quitting on himself and his team in the 200 fly today? Dude talks with perfect English yet represents Singapore in the international competitions and bails out on his 200 fly today after being beaten by a true American in Dressel

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Former Member — Fri, 24 Mar 2017 12:50:24 GMT

They brought in foreign ringers man who are using our system. Guys are fast in every event. I was more interested in the women swimmers but did keep up with the guys like Lincon doing breaststroke under 50 seconds. Mark Spitz years ago did that in fly.

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sunruh — Thu, 23 Mar 2017 11:44:52 GMT

RE: NCAA Swimming

ande — Thu, 23 Mar 2017 11:08:21 GMT

Men's D1 NCAA Championships begin today in 3 hours Wed March 22 - Sat. 25, 2017 Men’s Division I Swimming & Diving Championships Championship INFO Schedule Live Results Remember Indy is in the Eastern Time Zone Thursday Live Stream Results Friday Prelims Live Stream Finals Live Stream Results Saturday Prelims Live Stream Finals Live Stream Results www.indianasportscorp.org/.../ncaa-swimming-diving

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ande — Thu, 23 Mar 2017 10:44:51 GMT

Event 2 Men 200 Yard Freestyle Relay ==================================================================== NCAA: N 1:14.08 3/28/2009 Auburn J Andkjaer, G Louw, K Norys, M Targett Championship: C 1:14.08 3/28/2009 Auburn J Andkjaer, G Louw, K Norys, M Targett American: A 1:15.26 3/24/2011 Stanford A Coville, A Staab, J Allen, A Wayne U. S. Open: O 1:14.08 3/28/2009 Auburn J Andkjaer, G Louw, K Norys, M Targett Pool: P 1:15.48 Auburn School Seed Prelims ==================================================================== === Preliminaries === 1 Texas 1:16.73 1:15.35P r:+0.64 9.28 19.22 (19.22) 1) Jackson, Tate SO 28.12 (8.90) 37.97 (18.75) 2) r:0.34 Ringgold, Brett JR 46.85 (8.88) 56.90 (18.93) 3) r:0.23 Shebat, John SO 1:05.51 (8.61) 1:15.35 (18.45) 4) r:0.12 Conger, Jack SR 2 Florida 1:15.67 1:15.52 1) Martinez Scarpe, Enzo JR 2) r:0.32 Dressel, Caeleb JR 3) r:0.13 Switkowski, Jan JR 4) r:0.31 Blyzinskyj, Jack SR r:+0.66 9.44 19.57 (19.57) 28.06 (8.49) 37.56 (17.99) 46.40 (8.84) 56.48 (18.92) 1:05.46 (8.98) 1:15.52 (19.04) 3 NC State 1:16.27 1:15.56 1) Held, Ryan JR 2) r:0.36 Schiellerup, Anreas SR 3) r:0.25 Ress, Justin SO 4) r:0.25 Johnson, Scott SR r:+0.64 8.94 18.58 (18.58) 27.58 (9.00) 37.60 (19.02) 46.31 (8.71) 56.33 (18.73) 1:05.25 (8.92) 1:15.56 (19.23) 4 California 1:16.46 1:16.11 1) Sendyk, Pawel FR 2) r:0.31 Jensen, Michael FR 3) r:0.20 Lynch, Justin JR 4) r:0.09 Josa, Matthew JR r:+0.66 9.07 19.00 (19.00) 28.02 (9.02) 38.05 (19.05) 47.00 (8.95) 57.13 (19.08) 1:05.97 (8.84) 1:16.11 (18.98) 5 Auburn 1:16.03 1:16.45 1) Apple, Zachary SO 2) r:0.32 Holoda, Peter JR 3) r:0.03 Kalontarov, Ziv SO 4) r:0.15 Darmody, Kyle SR r:+0.64 9.12 19.01 (19.01) 28.07 (9.06) 38.07 (19.06) 46.93 (8.86) 57.24 (19.17) 1:06.28 (9.04) 1:16.45 (19.21) 6 Indiana 1:16.72 1:16.53 1) Khalafalla, Ali JR 2) r:0.11 Pieroni, Blake JR 3) r:0.17 Lorentz, Sam SR 4) r:0.23 Romany, Josh SO r:+0.61 9.33 19.37 (19.37) 28.17 (8.80) 38.33 (18.96) 47.20 (8.87) 57.29 (18.96) 1:06.25 (8.96) 1:16.53 (19.24) 7 Missouri 1:17.33 1:16.78 1) Chadwick, Michael SR 2) r:0.33 Sansoucie, Andrew SR 3) r:0.19 Mankus, Luke SO 4) r:0.30 Schreuders, Mikel SO r:+0.64 9.26 19.16 (19.16) 28.06 (8.90) 38.25 (19.09) 47.06 (8.81) 57.17 (18.92) 1:06.35 (9.18) 1:16.78 (19.61) 8 Alabama 1:16.40 1:16.91 1) Waddell, Zane FR 2) r:0.24 Kaliszak, Luke JR 3) r:0.19 Howard, Robert SO 4) r:0.24 Bams, Laurent JR r:+0.71 9.55 19.53 (19.53) 28.73 (9.20) 38.82 (19.29) 47.91 (9.09) 57.79 (18.97) 1:06.85 (9.06) 1:16.91 (19.12)

RE: NCAA Swimming

Rob Copeland — Thu, 23 Mar 2017 10:16:49 GMT

Caeleb Dressel 17.99 going 2nd in 200 Free Relay. And 18 others under 19! It's going to be a fast meet.

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sunruh — Thu, 23 Mar 2017 09:27:04 GMT

ande, your link is bad for realtime results www.sidearmstats.com/.../index.htm ncstate sets new ncaa record ut sets new american record townley haas has fastest 200 ever 3 guys at 1:31 2 guys at 1:30!!!! WOW! not to mention ryan murphy - yeah the backstroke guy - takes cal from behind usc and passes with a 1:32.08!!! and gunnar bentz takes georgia from behind standford for the pass with a 1:32.02!!!

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knelson — Thu, 23 Mar 2017 05:56:22 GMT

greece or denmark Maybe you and BraunMan need to get together...

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sunruh — Thu, 23 Mar 2017 03:14:35 GMT

greece or denmark

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Rob Copeland — Thu, 23 Mar 2017 02:59:56 GMT

remember when Joe Bottom made the cover of "SwimmingWorld" by being the 1st person under 20.00 in the 50 free? yeah, today just 6 were entered in the 50 free slower than that out of 54! and Dressel splits 17.99 on the 4x50 free relay! And including relay swimmers, over 80 swimmers were under 20! NC State ... inferior talent? 4 guys between 1:30.67 and 1:32.26! Where do I sign up for this inferior swimming training!!!

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sunruh — Thu, 23 Mar 2017 02:55:44 GMT

the UT relay was the fastest swim ever by 4 americans. but the better question is this: do those 6 points matter? last year UT won by almost 200 over Cal. last year schooling was on that relay...this year he is 2nd in prelims on the 50free. if he keeps that spot...are you willing to give up 6points in the relay to gain 17 in the 50free? i sure as heck would!

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Allen Stark — Wed, 22 Mar 2017 12:21:02 GMT

When did Franklin ever have "awesome" SDK? (Not that I am in any position to judge, but in comparison to most elite backstrokers her's always seemed weak.) Point taken,I saw a video of her 2015 and 2016 SDKs and the difference was visible. I must admit that awesome was hyperbole, but the 2015 kick was keeping her close enough.