Legal ways to cheat

RE: Legal ways to cheat

Former Member — Thu, 08 May 2014 13:00:05 GMT

Wear hand paddles. On your biceps. This is genius :applaud::D

RE: Legal ways to cheat

__steve__ — Thu, 08 May 2014 03:02:53 GMT

Edited For an improved hold on water with "isolated friction", never shave the palms of your hands.

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fatboy — Thu, 08 May 2014 02:07:03 GMT

Hide near the wall at the start. Project a hologram of Nathan Adrian's 41.13 100 in your lane, hit the touchpad when the hologram ends, and pretend to be winded!

RE: Legal ways to cheat

That Guy — Thu, 08 May 2014 01:52:24 GMT

Use an outboard motor. Words you don't want to hear from the next lane while you're waiting behind the blocks: "You have to prime it." So be the one saying those words, not the one hearing them.

RE: Legal ways to cheat

That Guy — Wed, 07 May 2014 10:12:27 GMT

Stash a kickboard in your brief for extra flotation.

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__steve__ — Wed, 07 May 2014 09:58:40 GMT

Or you can remove the brief (with the kickboard inside) and fling it across the pool claiming it was you.

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rxleakem — Wed, 07 May 2014 09:39:10 GMT

Stash a kickboard in your brief for extra flotation. :lolup: :banana:

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swimsuit addict — Wed, 07 May 2014 06:47:22 GMT

So theoretically, you could touch with your feet, then rotate your body and touch/push off with your hands as long as they are separated and simultaneously at the touch. Would you still have to limit yourself to symmetrical (looking) movements of your arms and legs while rotating around to touch with your hands? I'm going to have to go to the pool and practice this now.:)

RE: Legal ways to cheat

Former Member — Tue, 06 May 2014 16:04:25 GMT

Enter NT for the 1650 so that you are seeded in the first and slowest heat on Friday night simply because you want to return to your hotel earlier and rest for Saturday's events.

RE: Legal ways to cheat

Rob Copeland — Tue, 06 May 2014 11:32:50 GMT

I think if you dropped your legs coming into the turn and reached behind yourself simultaneously with both arms you could have a legal touch?There is nothing in the turn rule that states the hands need to touch the wall first, only that “the touch shall be made with both hands separated and simultaneously at, above, or below the water level” So theoretically, you could touch with your feet, then rotate your body and touch/push off with your hands as long as they are separated and simultaneously at the touch. 101.2.4 Turns and Finish—At each turn and at the finish of the race, the touch shall be made with both hands separated and simultaneously at, above, or below the water level. At the last stroke before the turn and at the finish an arm stroke not followed by a leg kick is permitted. The head may be submerged after the last arm pull prior to the touch, provided it breaks the surface of the water at some point during the last complete or incomplete cycle preceding the touch.

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swimsuit addict — Tue, 06 May 2014 10:58:47 GMT

I think if you dropped your legs coming into the turn and reached behind yourself simultaneously with both arms you could have a legal touch? i did float this idea by him. His take on it was that if your trunk is prone enough to still qualify as being "on the ***," extending your arms behind you to touch the wall before the rest of your body hit it would break the hands-not-past-the-hip-line rule. I'm not sure if I agree--not sure how the plane of the hip line would be defined if your torso was bent at the waist--but he looked as pleased as someone who had discovered a clever checkmate when explaining this. :) I also wonder if a 3/4 forward somersault with a half twist off the blocks would be a legal start for such a swim. (not hatching plans, just curious ...)

RE: Legal ways to cheat

That Guy — Tue, 06 May 2014 10:19:57 GMT

Wear hand paddles. On your biceps.

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rxleakem — Tue, 06 May 2014 09:25:09 GMT

Shave only the area under your swimsuit.

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That Guy — Tue, 06 May 2014 05:06:08 GMT

Enter with impossibly fast times so you are surrounded by giants who lap you multiple times. Do this at Nationals so you can enter 6 events and swim backwards in all of them.

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Chris Stevenson — Mon, 05 May 2014 12:41:10 GMT

Turns out he was trying to puzzle out on what grounds he could dq it! I get that a lot in practice too. :)

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jpetyk — Mon, 05 May 2014 12:20:16 GMT

I wonder if one could swim "crawl" backwards, and push off with the feet, and swim the next length forwards. Wouldn't that still qualify as "freestyle?"

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sunruh — Mon, 05 May 2014 12:09:26 GMT

if you are over 5feet 10inches tall you are cheating!!!!! legally that is.

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swimsuit addict — Mon, 05 May 2014 11:37:03 GMT

swim backwards. Once when when I was playing around swimming breaststroke backwards after practice, I noticed my coach scrutinizing me and looking thoughtful. Turns out he was trying to puzzle out on what grounds he could dq it! He reasoned that the stroke itself might be legal, but that there wouldn't be any way to legally touch the wall with two hands simultaneously (while still remaining in the ***, hands not going below the waist and moving symmetrically etc) if you were swimming feet first ...

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trexleradam — Mon, 05 May 2014 03:13:31 GMT

Once when when I was playing around swimming breaststroke backwards after practice, I noticed my coach scrutinizing me and looking thoughtful. Turns out he was trying to puzzle out on what grounds he could dq it! He reasoned that the stroke itself might be legal, but that there wouldn't be any way to legally touch the wall with two hands simultaneously (while still remaining in the ***, hands not going below the waist and moving symmetrically etc) if you were swimming feet first ... I think if you dropped your legs coming into the turn and reached behind yourself simultaneously with both arms you could have a legal touch?

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TRYM_Swimmer — Mon, 05 May 2014 01:04:18 GMT

I wonder if one could swim "crawl" backwards, and push off with the feet, and swim the next length forwards. Wouldn't that still qualify as "freestyle?" Absolutely! As long as you touch each wall in a freestyle race, you can mix and match to your heart's delight. The Free leg of an IM is a different story. Of course, you may be browbeaten for being a showoff!!!!!!

RE: Legal ways to cheat

That Guy — Sat, 03 May 2014 10:22:23 GMT

swim backwards.

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__steve__ — Sat, 03 May 2014 09:58:28 GMT

After the starting beep, count five Mississippi before reacting.doesn't work

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That Guy — Sat, 03 May 2014 09:43:31 GMT

After the starting beep, count five Mississippi before reacting.

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jim thornton — Fri, 02 May 2014 11:10:02 GMT

I don't know if this is legal cheating, or illegal cheating, or if it would help your times, or if it would be toxic to your skin. But has anyone tried ScotchGuarding themselves or using some kind of Teflon spray coating on the skin? Would it reduce drag of any sort to eliminate or lessen the hydrogen tension between water and skin? What is the rule on body oils? Years ago, some swimmers would coat themselves in Johnson's Baby Oil in the hopes of being more slippery in the water. Not sure if it worked, but it seems like it might help at least a little. Now that there's no smoking allowed on most pool decks, the likelihood of pool water igniting like the Cuyahoga River is dimished too, thank god. www.youtube.com/watch

RE: Legal ways to cheat

That Guy — Fri, 02 May 2014 09:12:23 GMT

Grow long hair. Do not wear a cap.