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The 2013 Masters South Central Zone SCY Swimming Championships are this weekend 
Fri Apr 5 - 7, 2013
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Tentative Timeline</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185749?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 29 Dec 2013 12:57:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:af98e8d6-6089-4325-b229-0d595df45486</guid><dc:creator>Allen Stark</dc:creator><description>Allen:

They just added the meet yesterday here &lt;a href="http://www.usms.org/comp/meets/?utm_campaign=top_nav&amp;amp;utm_medium=events_and_results"&gt;www.usms.org/.../&lt;/a&gt;

Thanks!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185725?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 29 Dec 2013 12:55:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:e5cfd2ff-3ac2-492d-bb3c-5a4c2cfe3c4f</guid><dc:creator>Allen Stark</dc:creator><description>This isn&amp;#39;t about a Zone championship,but I didn&amp;#39;t want to start a new thread to discuss this.Does anyone have info on the Coral Springs Holiday Classic.I could find the results on MeetMobile,but,not only are they not on Event Results,the meet isn&amp;#39;t even on the Gold Coast website in any place I could find.That seems surprising.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185735?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 29 Dec 2013 07:46:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:43735340-4281-48a9-ac0d-d57774298550</guid><dc:creator>Frank Thompson</dc:creator><description>Allen:

They just added the meet yesterday here &lt;a href="http://www.usms.org/comp/meets/?utm_campaign=top_nav&amp;amp;utm_medium=events_and_results"&gt;www.usms.org/.../&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185713?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2013 12:39:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:2237644c-6cf0-4ab0-8853-a52ff46ab7ea</guid><dc:creator>ourswimmer</dc:creator><description>Here are two excerpts from the Pacific Masters results:

Men 85-89 50 Yard Butterfly
===============================================================================
NATL: N 39.89 3/7/2010 FRANK PIEMME 
PMS: P 49.18 12/31/2010 Frank Grannis 
Name Age Team Finals 
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1 Grannis, Frank R 88 The Olympic Club-38 53.00 
2 Motmans, August 85 Alameda Aquatic-38 53.05 

Men 85-89 100 Yard IM
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NATL: N 1:28.37 3/7/2010 FRANK PIEMME 
PMS: P 1:42.15 12/31/2009 G. Edward Rudloff 
Name Age Team Finals 
===============================================================================
1 Grannis, Frank R 88 The Olympic Club-38 1:53.43 
54.38 1:53.43 (59.05) 
2 Motmans, August 85 Alameda Aquatic-38 1:55.16 
51.72 1:55.16 (1:03.44)

Do not count on outliving the competition!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185699?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2013 08:50:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:ce8cbc8d-78a5-42ca-ae98-31ebb911c6de</guid><dc:creator>jonblank</dc:creator><description>My good friend David Guthrie had a fantastic meet - 2 USMS records (100 &amp;amp; 200 SCY breaststroke) and a stellar 100 IM, 50 BR,  and 50 fly.  Breaststroke technique was textbook, 5-6 strokes/length with superb quick turns.  I can&amp;#39;t wait to see how fast he swims LC meters this summer!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185646?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2013 15:13:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:583e36c8-95d4-4ede-9b05-fef28fe11914</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>The link above is working for me, and appears to be current (the Saturday results are posted, the Sunday results still pending)

Had to clear my cache.  Now the link is taking me to the current meet.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185629?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2013 08:11:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:d328e29f-00c1-44c9-8a26-4de9acc5756f</guid><dc:creator>StewartACarroll</dc:creator><description>Does that mean I can only see it on my phone? I&amp;#39;ll wait.

Yes. I have the MeetMobile app for my IPhone and was checking results all day yesterday. After launching the app type the meet name I posted earlier and you should be up and running.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185622?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2013 06:40:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:4a650cca-63fe-46c3-ab67-ce2775d85e5e</guid><dc:creator>tpost2</dc:creator><description>The link above is working for me, and appears to be current (the Saturday results are posted, the Sunday results still pending)&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185552?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 06 Apr 2013 15:27:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:5c290d34-8248-4300-9c6d-637c77ec3283</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I&amp;#39;m not sure what you mean but I looked at the results from today earlier on the afternoon

Weird. I tried what is probably the same thing you did but only got a US Swimming meet from last month. My interest in this meet is trivial, but I want to find something when I look for it.  

Can you post a link to results that you viewed?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185480?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 06 Apr 2013 14:38:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:74ab4348-a59b-4331-9aa4-d77f063002f7</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>There are live results through the Longhorn Aquatics page.   Under the Meets tab the real-time results link will pull them up.

You mean the page that has the March 7-9  meet?  

&lt;a href="http://www.utexas.edu/longhornaquatics/results/"&gt;www.utexas.edu/.../&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185400?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 06 Apr 2013 14:17:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:c5bd3fa3-069f-4400-8b94-22c3a1a3a61b</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>The MeetMobile app has the South Central Zones but you have to search under &amp;quot;Masters Southern Zones&amp;quot;.

Does that mean I can only see it on my phone? I&amp;#39;ll wait.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185306?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 06 Apr 2013 13:44:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:aea1d5d2-8791-43b0-a838-02cfcbc75b2b</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Pacific Masters is updating results of their meet throughout the day on Swimphone.  South Central Zone: nothing anywhere. It appears they are using the HyTek meet manager and the meet is under the auspicies of Texas Aquatics, but nothing is available that I can find.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185390?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 06 Apr 2013 10:06:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:96eb4c1b-5aad-4c8b-8439-70e63aa75d85</guid><dc:creator>StewartACarroll</dc:creator><description>Pacific Masters is updating results of their meet throughout the day on Swimphone.  South Central Zone: nothing anywhere. It appears they are using the HyTek meet manager and the meet is under the auspicies of Texas Aquatics, but nothing is available that I can find.

The MeetMobile app has the South Central Zones but you have to search under &amp;quot;Masters Southern Zones&amp;quot;.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185274?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2013 10:54:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:f03c4e87-0a2d-4e08-be08-acdcdcac31ff</guid><dc:creator>StewartACarroll</dc:creator><description>So this may be more info than you want but I&amp;#39;m a data-driven kind of guy.

There is nothing wrong with data and your explanation was very good, thank you. I was surprised how many of my masters team mates are religious about training but don&amp;#39;t compete in any competitions.

My feeling is that while there are certainly a number of people who compete in both zones and nationals, the majority pick one or the other, usually with more competing in zones compared to nationals if nationals requires a plane trip. In that case people would taper for whichever meet they attend. I would think that people who attend both meets would usually only taper for one meet (probably nationals) since they are typically about 3-4 weeks apart. Some people might do a drop-taper for zones and a full taper for nationals.

Obviously taper duration will vary from person to person and the events they focus on, but the gap between my zones(south central) and Nationals seems too close to me to even do a drop taper and then a full taper for Nationals. It&amp;#39;s a shame there is not better coordination between the Zone and National events so we could do two both, like in college with Conference and NCAAs.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185264?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2013 10:43:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:5bd17218-b7cf-4161-a095-268c45faac99</guid><dc:creator>StewartACarroll</dc:creator><description>Is that the paper that opens like a book with a scantily clad woman inside? tee hee hee!

No the paper you are thinking about is the Sun. Ironically they have an article today about his withdrawal with comments from Sharon Davies, a silver medalist from the 1980 Moscow games.  

&lt;a href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/4873784/Lance-Armstrong-swim-bid-return-sinks-as-Sharron-Davies-joins-his-critics.html"&gt;www.thesun.co.uk/.../Lance-Armstrong-swim-bid-return-sinks-as-Sharron-Davies-joins-his-critics.html&lt;/a&gt;

It&amp;#39;s hard as a former Brit to take any pride in the quality of British newspapers!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185250?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2013 10:29:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:4cd798cf-745c-4ba7-b55c-5f82b1fd2030</guid><dc:creator>mlabresh</dc:creator><description>I am curious as a newbie masters swimmer do many people compete at zones and nationals and do they typically swim through zones or taper build and taper again. Just curious.

I think some of that depends on the region. If you live in an area where there are lots of meet so to choose from, you might be more selective. I, personally, did my very first meet ever last summer at Summer Nationals. I would have loved to do at least one meet before that to kind of warm up, but there simply were none to be had around here. This spring, I really wanted to go to Spring Nationals. But we just can&amp;#39;t afford it. I am, however, doing our zone meet as it&amp;#39;s only an hour from home. Then I have a SCM meet in two weeks that&amp;#39;s about 2 hours from home. Pickings are slim around here, so I grab whatever I can. :)

As far as tapering, I did taper for tomorrow&amp;#39;s meet (zones). I will probably work a little harder this next week and then cut back just a little bit before the next meet. But I&amp;#39;m not planning on pushing super hard or anything leading up to it.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185244?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2013 09:50:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:432a94f4-d4fd-45a1-8142-3040d23d426a</guid><dc:creator>chowmi</dc:creator><description>This article appeared this morning in one of the UK&amp;#39;s national newspapers(it&amp;#39;s one of the trashier newspapers):

&lt;a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-2303787/Lance-Armstrong-return-competitive-sport-swimmer-weekend.html"&gt;www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Lance-Armstrong-return-competitive-sport-swimmer-weekend.html&lt;/a&gt;

Its a bit disappointing that they don&amp;#39;t even get there facts right in the article about the meet and who Lance will be competing against, but I guess that&amp;#39;s how they sell there newspaper.


Is that the paper that opens like a book with a scantily clad woman inside? tee hee hee! I think it&amp;#39;s funny how (the online version at least!) cuts and pastes the old heat sheet and circles his name in red. I agree there are clearly unfactual or unchecked assertions made, but it is remarkable accurate for non-swimmers reporting on a a swimming issue.

Also, IT IS ABSOLUTELY THRILLING TO HEAR &amp;quot;MASTERS SOUTH CENTRAL ZONE CHAMPIONSHIPS&amp;quot; over and over in the news! And the reporter said it really slow on our local TV last night, like they had no idea what they were saying and were reading it real careful like so as not to mess it up!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185287?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2013 01:05:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:dbd29ee6-0e8f-4801-906e-6ea8339fbafb</guid><dc:creator>knelson</dc:creator><description>the gap between my zones(south central) and Nationals seems too close to me to even do a drop taper and then a full taper for Nationals. It&amp;#39;s a shame there is not better coordination between the Zone and National events so we could do two both, like in college with Conference and NCAAs.

You think so? I thought in college there was only something like three weeks between conference meets and NCAAs. You&amp;#39;ve got five weeks between now and USMS Nationals.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185233?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2013 08:01:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:da3d8692-3d3b-4960-9148-7ee173a61aff</guid><dc:creator>swimmieAvsFan</dc:creator><description>This article appeared this morning in one of the UK&amp;#39;s national newspapers(it&amp;#39;s one of the trashier newspapers):

&lt;a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-2303787/Lance-Armstrong-return-competitive-sport-swimmer-weekend.html"&gt;www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Lance-Armstrong-return-competitive-sport-swimmer-weekend.html&lt;/a&gt;

Its a bit disappointing that they don&amp;#39;t even get there facts right in the article about the meet and who Lance will be competing against,  but I guess that&amp;#39;s how they sell there newspaper.

The Daily Mail is pretty much the UK&amp;#39;s version of The National Inquirer, so it&amp;#39;s without a doubt trashy (as you said).  They definitely got facts wrong, but compared to a lot of other things I&amp;#39;ve read in that rag, this article isn&amp;#39;t that far from the truth.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185220?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2013 07:44:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:691b13fd-44c8-42a4-9fde-9ca046992e53</guid><dc:creator>StewartACarroll</dc:creator><description>You can bet they&amp;#39;ll be asking about post event drug testing.  :bolt:

This article appeared this morning in one of the UK&amp;#39;s national newspapers(it&amp;#39;s one of the trashier newspapers):

&lt;a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-2303787/Lance-Armstrong-return-competitive-sport-swimmer-weekend.html"&gt;www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Lance-Armstrong-return-competitive-sport-swimmer-weekend.html&lt;/a&gt;

Its a bit disappointing that they don&amp;#39;t even get there facts right in the article about the meet and who Lance will be competing against,  but I guess that&amp;#39;s how they sell there newspaper.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185130?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2013 11:43:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:dfa1e0bc-1443-4171-a829-56d6906272ca</guid><dc:creator>mlabresh</dc:creator><description>I&amp;#39;ll be heading to the Iowa/Breadbasket Zone meet this Saturday! It will be my first meet of the year.

&lt;a href="http://www.usms.org/comp/event.php?MeetID=20130406401300Y"&gt;www.usms.org/.../event.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185206?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2013 08:19:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:544e81e1-8aa7-4414-8f6c-65a675b85da4</guid><dc:creator>jaadams1</dc:creator><description>Lance Armstrong&amp;#39;s entered.


You can bet they&amp;#39;ll be asking about post event drug testing.  :bolt:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185192?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2013 08:18:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:5f558e60-9c6e-4ecd-aa5f-231795589a8e</guid><dc:creator>jaadams1</dc:creator><description>The NW SCY Zone meet happened a couple weeks ago in Oregon...I was just looking at our website as I was updating it yesterday, and realized that.  :)  I didn&amp;#39;t see any results or anything from it, but it&amp;#39;ll be out soon I&amp;#39;m sure.  www.swimoregon.org&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185183?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2013 05:57:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:cbf9fe82-600d-4e9f-ad09-cf823d48101e</guid><dc:creator>Chris Stevenson</dc:creator><description>I am curious as a newbie masters swimmer do many people compete at zones and nationals and do they typically swim through zones or taper build and taper again. Just curious.

So this may be more info than you want but I&amp;#39;m a data-driven kind of guy. If you look at meet in the USMS results database about 30% of USMS members compete in SOME pool-based meet during the course of the year. In our LMSC last year we looked at participation rates and they were pretty consistent with this (27% competed in meets) and if you included OW events it was almost 40% overall participation. The average number of events per person was 1.7. If you look at only nationals and zones, only about 32% of all the participants (ie, about 12% of the entire LMSC) competed in them. Keep in mind that in 2012 SCY zones and SCY nationals were both drivable meets for members of our LMSC.

My feeling is that while there are certainly a number of people who compete in both zones and nationals, the majority pick one or the other, usually with more competing in zones compared to nationals if nationals requires a plane trip. In that case people would taper for whichever meet they attend. I would think that people who attend both meets would usually only taper for one meet (probably nationals) since they are typically about 3-4 weeks apart. Some people might do a drop-taper for zones and a full taper for nationals.

They are somewhat different kinds of meets. Zones are usually smaller and so usually finish more quickly. But paradoxically, since you compete across age-groups (ie seeding is by time only) you sometimes may get better racing in zones than nationals. You are likely to know more people at zones than nationals and -- in our zone championships at least -- there is a full slate of relays so there is sometimes a little bit more of a team atmosphere because you probably do more relays and might have more team members attending. There are usually no qualifying standards for zones meets from what I can see.

I like both types of meets. Pick either (or both), you can&amp;#39;t go wrong.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: 2013 Zones Championships</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/185171?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2013 04:29:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:16ba1fb2-8ee1-41f1-afac-b3058c764497</guid><dc:creator>StewartACarroll</dc:creator><description>I am curious as a newbie masters swimmer do many people compete at zones and nationals and do they typically swim through zones or taper build and taper again. Just curious.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>