1650: pacing question

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tigerchik — Fri, 29 Mar 2013 05:24:03 GMT

I am a bit late with the congrats, but nice swim!

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mcnair — Wed, 27 Mar 2013 10:51:21 GMT

Great swim! Definitely see forums.usms.org/entry.php I started off with :37 off the blocks and settled in right at :45-:46 per 50 the whole time; managed sub :45 pace per 50 in my last 150 yards. Both the 500 and 1000 splits were PRs for me as well.

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TRYM_Swimmer — Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:19:55 GMT

Great swim! Congrats!

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pmccoy — Tue, 26 Mar 2013 03:38:10 GMT

Great swim! Definitely see

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mcnair — Mon, 25 Mar 2013 10:23:00 GMT

Kirk's comment on the meet report I wrote up for my blog reminded me I should report back on this thread... I listed 25:20 as my seed time and went 25:05 in the 1650 at state, about a 1:31/100 pace (faster pace than the 500 I swam 2.5 months ago in my first meet of the year)... even after dropping 10 seconds off my 400 IM PR and 8 secs off my 100 BK PR. Pretty much right in line with what you guys were predicting. Thanks!

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Water Rat — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:44:46 GMT

Here's a set my masters coach says will approximate your race 1650 time. I have zero empirical evidence that it works for me, b/c I don't swim 1650s voluntarily! But I know others who seem to think it works. Swim the following 1650 hard broken as follows and subtract 1:40: 11 lengths, rest :15 10, rest :15 9, rest :15 8, rest :10 7, rest :10 6, rest :10 5, rest :10 4, rest :05 3, rest :05 2, rest :05 1

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orca1946 — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:00:51 GMT

Split the diff. and go 25 flat. Maybe you can hang with another 25 & improve. Good luck!

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mcnair — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:26:22 GMT

I just did some quick calculations. A 1:30 pace brings my 1650 in at 24:45 and 1:32 at 25:20. I'll probably go with the conservative time for my seed, but I'm really going to try to break 25... I didn't know I was that close, since I was on a plateau for about a year (~29:00 for the mile). Hope to keep the momentum going through the summer! Thanks for the feedback!

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knelson — Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:36:56 GMT

I used to do a set where I'd swim 100s on the 1:30 and try to hold my 1650 pace. My goal was around 1:02-1:03, so I was getting more rest than you did. I hit my goal pace when I swam the 1650 tapered. Based on this you should definitely be able to hold a 1:30 pace in a race, I would suspect.

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Former Member — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:10:46 GMT

I would go with the mid 25 as your entry time.

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tigerchik — Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:32:48 GMT

I would say yes and I'd give them the faster seed time. 20 x 100 is always a very good indicator for me. As you were getting 10-11 seconds rest, you might try the set on 1:35 next time. Threshold sets should give you :05-:10 rest per 100, so that would get you a slightly better threshold workout (I think you can probably make that interval). :D