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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Heel Smashing Flip Turn Prognosis</title><link>https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/general/11052/heel-smashing-flip-turn-prognosis</link><description>Last night, I flipped a bit late and smacked my heel pretty hard on the metallic edge of our pool. I&amp;#39;ve done this before as I suspect many of our rank and file members have in their respective pools. Usually, it&amp;#39;s pretty sore the next day, but you manage</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: Heel Smashing Flip Turn Prognosis</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/182185?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 01:38:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:e99ae5b0-c48d-437e-8fa6-00e6a3ec6130</guid><dc:creator>Redbird Alum</dc:creator><description>Matt, did learning that you had shattered a bone lead to any kind of difference in treatment? ...
 
Jim -
 
As Lainey relates above, just a &amp;quot;boot&amp;quot; to immobilize my foot from mid calf down and provide some support.  (this was, after all, a collegiate health clinic!)
 
And, as I was a college student at the time, I also used your beverage and medication route for relief.
 
The boot came off after about a week, mostly because my coach was getting antsy with the season progressing...&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Heel Smashing Flip Turn Prognosis</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/182118?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:38:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:5965cd68-1333-428d-a381-ca6c3718f609</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I smashed my heel a few years back...very painful for about a week, then I could walk somewhat normally again.  I had an X-ray, which showed I hadn&amp;#39;t broken anything.  

It took me a while to feel comfortable doing flip turns again, however...I concentrated on tucking and tumbling rather than flipping.  

The only long term malady is a really thick ridge of callous type material on my heel.  No amount of pumicing will remove it.  

Good luck...&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Heel Smashing Flip Turn Prognosis</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/182041?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:09:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:b480d4ec-9203-4004-8b5e-f7138eb61e4d</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Alcohol + Tylenol = good news for heel BAD news for liver!

Glad to hear your heel is better.

If you had broken bones in your heel Docs might have put you in a really attractive boot.  I broke my &amp;quot;knee&amp;quot; about a year ago.  Advice no weight bearing for about 6 weeks--in wheelchair, then as tolerated--with a hemi walker, then with a cane.  I basically had to learn to walk again.  BUT NO CAST OR BRACE.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Heel Smashing Flip Turn Prognosis</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/182010?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:20:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:dd6b64cd-da35-431c-86f3-d2304e9da309</guid><dc:creator>gdanner</dc:creator><description>Prognoses?

Prognosis Negative.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Heel Smashing Flip Turn Prognosis</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/182026?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 01:05:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:5fdcd8bc-5374-4aed-aa3c-7c700b4a64f8</guid><dc:creator>jim thornton</dc:creator><description>Prognosis Negative.

Prognosis Negative turns out to be...unnecessarily pessimistic! 

Heel much improved after 3 Sierra Nevada Torpedos last night and a number of generic tylenols consumed over the past 12 hours or so.

And a hot bath.

And some ice.

I can hobble quite spiritedly once more, and can no longer count my heart beats in pain signals from the foot!

:cane:

Best pre-Christmas ever!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Heel Smashing Flip Turn Prognosis</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/181917?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:54:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:6fe6d885-196a-455f-96a8-3a55783d7c76</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>so true! ever broken your finger when finishing a race? ever broken your toe jumping off the block? we don&amp;#39;t even want to mention all those shoulder and knee surgeries our healthy sport causes...

back to topic: elevate your foot when icing, that should help as well. Other than that: keep swimming. You might be faster in the pool right now than on land.

Or been hit in the face while swimming backstroke, causing a cut from your goggles&amp;#39; nosepiece, a split lip, and a black eye? 

Back to topic: So sorry - no helpful advice, just commiseration.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Heel Smashing Flip Turn Prognosis</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/181972?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:59:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:b9294cc7-cd75-48b5-b870-45a93cb3717d</guid><dc:creator>Redbird Alum</dc:creator><description>Jim -
 
All kidding aside, if the pain persists as you describe, get to a doctor for an exam/xray.  I mashed my heel at Iowa State back when they had the metal corners on their deck and not only sliced it wide open, but also managed to shatter a bone.
 
It took quite a while to get over that.
 
Matt&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Heel Smashing Flip Turn Prognosis</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/181898?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:34:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:1a7b8f8f-dc90-48c3-838e-5ce30f0ffc5e</guid><dc:creator>smontanaro</dc:creator><description>You might be faster in the pool right now than on land.

My guess is that the lifeguards won&amp;#39;t be thrilled when Jim&amp;#39;s pugs do their business on the pool deck. :D&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Heel Smashing Flip Turn Prognosis</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/181885?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:14:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:98a78b45-8b26-477b-8f71-478c286f6f9c</guid><dc:creator>Britt03</dc:creator><description>Seriously,  condolences… beyond ice, limping, and a few choice words I have no better solution. Swimming may be a non-contact sport, but when one does accidently contact walls, ladders,  lane ropes and other swimmers the results can be painful.

so true! ever broken your finger when finishing a race? ever broken your toe jumping off the block? we don&amp;#39;t even want to mention all those shoulder and knee surgeries our healthy sport causes...

back to topic: elevate your foot when icing, that should help as well. Other than that: keep swimming. You might be faster in the pool right now than on land.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Heel Smashing Flip Turn Prognosis</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/181872?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:50:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:3ad8c2b0-504c-4304-aaf4-b165ec7ebdaf</guid><dc:creator>Rob Copeland</dc:creator><description>I heard that Speddo is coming out with new swimmer protective gear (pending FINA approval) including HealSavers and Backstroke Helmets.  The HealSavers cushion the blow of heal strikes without increasing buoyancy or increasing drag. Backstroke helmets are extra thick caps with built in springs and stays for head and neck support.  I understand Speddo is also working with DARPA on hand and body collision avoidance technologies.

Seriously,  condolences… beyond ice, limping, and a few choice words I have no better solution. Swimming may be a non-contact sport, but when one does accidently contact walls, ladders,  lane ropes and other swimmers the results can be painful.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Heel Smashing Flip Turn Prognosis</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/181859?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:25:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:88843bee-a84d-425f-9eab-89c1fc3142a3</guid><dc:creator>jim thornton</dc:creator><description>Ibuprofen and ice?

Ice, yes, but I am wary of NSAIDs, which have a lot of downsides including, perhaps, delayed healing!

Now heroin, that&amp;#39;s a different story.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Heel Smashing Flip Turn Prognosis</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/181840?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:23:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:3a23c8bd-6207-469b-abe5-1a307ea512ef</guid><dc:creator>smontanaro</dc:creator><description>Ibuprofen and ice?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Heel Smashing Flip Turn Prognosis</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/181999?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 05:46:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:e97d9c39-1886-49bc-95f4-124e2f38d751</guid><dc:creator>jim thornton</dc:creator><description>Jim -
 
All kidding aside, if the pain persists as you describe, get to a doctor for an exam/xray.  I mashed my heel at Iowa State back when they had the metal corners on their deck and not only sliced it wide open, but also managed to shatter a bone.
 
It took quite a while to get over that.
 
Matt

Matt, did learning that you had shattered a bone lead to any kind of difference in treatment?  I have learned, for example, that when you break ribs, there is not really anything the doctor can do about it other than advising you that with time, your ribs will stop hurting and heal on their own.  

I am not sure if the same applies to a (potentially) shattered heal bone.  I doubt that mine is broken, but on the outside chance it is, would being able to document this via an X-ray or other scan mean I&amp;#39;d need a cast or some other sort of treatment?

The older I get, and the worse my health insurance becomes, the less inclined I am to go to a doctor for anything besides, that is, a Rx for the Brompton&amp;#39;s Cocktail I am hoping to secure one day soon!

Unfortunately, Michael Jackson&amp;#39;s doctor is serving time, and I am not sure Kurt Dickson can prescribe juice of this sort across state lines, though god knows I would like to think he would like to!

The mind in pain, self-medicated with Sierra Nevada, sometimes begins to take little sortees.

I apologize if this sortee has offended anybody in the Dickson and/or greater USMS life-affirming community!&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Heel Smashing Flip Turn Prognosis</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/181986?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 02:43:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:645eb446-7ddc-471a-8e35-69cec0b1d9f9</guid><dc:creator>orca1946</dc:creator><description>Ice &amp;amp; elevate! I also smashed my heel during a 500 in college at Ill state Univ. while on a team meet in Bemeige,  minn. !!
You might want an x ray also.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>