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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>College Swimming</title><link>https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/general/11026/college-swimming</link><description>Article in today&amp;#39;s Wall Street Journal (11/29/12).
 
 online.wsj.com/.../SB10001424127887324352004578137330732319310.html 
 
Read some of the comments if you have time.
 
I find this article hilarious, because last Saturday, on 11/24/12 I was swimmming</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: College Swimming</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/181508?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:35:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:0daa44bf-6507-469d-9fc5-2774aa20b71c</guid><dc:creator>knelson</dc:creator><description>From the article:
Evan Cudworth, a 2009 Chicago graduate, isn&amp;#39;t sorry to see the test go. Now 26 and working in the school&amp;#39;s admissions office, he says most students were &amp;quot;pretty embarrassed that they had to get up in front of their classmates and strip down&amp;quot; into swimwear during freshman orientation.

Oh no, kids were embarrassed?!!

There are way too many people out there who can&amp;#39;t swim. I really wish this requirement was expanded to more schools rather than slowly going extinct as it seems to be. I&amp;#39;d also add in the requirement that all students need to take a basic first aid class to graduate.

The schools should probably make it free if it&amp;#39;s mandatory. But I find it pretty funny that some people have the argument &amp;quot;well I don&amp;#39;t plan on being near water EVER.&amp;quot; That&amp;#39;s silly.

Agree on both points. If not free it should be very cheap, not the same credit-hour rate as academic classes.

I&amp;#39;d also add that I&amp;#39;d be a little skeptical of religious exemptions for getting out of the class. I don&amp;#39;t know of any religion that forbids swimming. Offer female only classes and the problem is solved. In fact learning to swim is a tenet of Islam.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: College Swimming</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/181494?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:47:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:6d5e4c68-66b3-4fb5-a2af-d4202fdf6345</guid><dc:creator>gdanner</dc:creator><description>The only valid complaints are perhaps the cost of the course or religious/physical limitations. The schools should probably make it free if it&amp;#39;s mandatory. But I find it pretty funny that some people have the argument &amp;quot;well I don&amp;#39;t plan on being near water EVER.&amp;quot; That&amp;#39;s silly. The fact is that these people don&amp;#39;t have a real excuse, they&amp;#39;re most likely just embarrassed or they think they&amp;#39;re too smart to drown.

On a related note: &lt;a href="http://news.menshealth.com/why-swimmers-are-smarter/2012/11/27/"&gt;news.menshealth.com/.../&lt;/a&gt;

children who are taught to swim  at an early age hit certain physical and developmental milestones  faster than kids who learn later in life.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: College Swimming</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/181472?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:14:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:f76f44c8-0991-4c23-8048-8104fccae742</guid><dc:creator>smontanaro</dc:creator><description>I find this article hilarious, because last Saturday, on 11/24/12 I was swimmming and shared a lane with a guy wearing a UCLA swim brief.

UCLA hasn&amp;#39;t had a men&amp;#39;s team in a long while.  I don&amp;#39;t think a UCLA brief would suggest this guy swam for the team BITD, though perhaps he did and he&amp;#39;s now way out of swim shape.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: College Swimming</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/181578?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 06:56:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:cc7114cd-c6a1-45cc-9f92-64ad2351f945</guid><dc:creator>orca1946</dc:creator><description>No swimming and now schools do not teach &amp;quot;cursive writing&amp;quot; Everybody prints letters &amp;amp; then have to be able to fill out forms can&amp;#39;t write??&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: College Swimming</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/181552?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 01:26:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:0459c62a-0eef-460d-aa08-fbaf2fd2741c</guid><dc:creator>knelson</dc:creator><description>I don&amp;#39;t understand what the swim test has to do with how people choose to exercise.

It&amp;#39;s ludicrous. It would be like eliminating a driving test in order to get a license because it encroaches on peoples&amp;#39; choice on how to drive a car.

OK, maybe not exactly. Nobody is forced to get a driver&amp;#39;s license I suppose. :)&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: College Swimming</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/181527?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 01:01:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:5a63dd87-f45d-469f-87ff-687e24849f13</guid><dc:creator>jbs</dc:creator><description>This is the part of the article that I found strange:

A University of Chicago spokeswoman says the changes to the physical education requirements were intended to give students more choice in how they exercise. Colgate University sank its swim requirement in 2005 with a bit more of a splash, after a faculty committee called it &amp;quot;arbitrary and indefensible.&amp;quot;

Granted, who knows how accurate the quote is, but I don&amp;#39;t understand what the swim test has to do with how people choose to exercise.  And I don&amp;#39;t see how it could be said that it&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;arbitrary and indefensible&amp;quot; that people should be required to know how to swim.  

And I agree with the comments that the swim class option should be free or an extremely low cost.  Because that&amp;#39;s what the point of the test is, to get people to learn how to swim.  Rightly or wrongly, some people will be upset that they have to take the class.  There&amp;#39;s no need to give them another issue (cost) to get angry about, because that&amp;#39;s just going to make it harder to achieve the goal of getting them able to swim.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>