Hey Distance people: 1500/1650 prep

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Former Member — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:23:15 GMT

At NW SCM Zones today, there was a woman in a jammer! I do not know if her name was Ellen, nor do I know if she got DQ'd for competing in a 2 piece suit. We now return you to your regularly scheduled :mooning: I am at a loss for animated gifs. Almost.

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Former Member — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 11:52:58 GMT

Yeah, that's great! I swim sometimes with a Norwegian, Knut Landboe. He's a few years older than you, so you probably don't know him, but as you said Norge is a small country, population wise! Norway is a small country, and the world of Masters swimming doesn't seem that big either :)! Knut (Arne) Landboe is the same age as me, we're both born in 1967 (I came back at 41, 4 years ago). He was an excellent freestyler in the eighties, with more than 20 medals from national championships, several of them gold. His best events were the 400 and 1500, but he medalled in the 100 and 200 as well. He swam for Asker, a team just 30 miles or so from my team, Øvre Eiker. I was nowhere near his level, though, and I doubt if he remembers me. His 1500 was one minute and 15 seconds faster than mine :bow:. They had a very strong team those years, especially in the 4x200 free relay. Aren't you about the same age, Knelson? I think we were in the same age group in worlds in Gothenburg 2010.

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knelson — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 10:15:15 GMT

Aren't you about the same age, Knelson? I think we were in the same age group in worlds in Gothenburg 2010. That was my first year in 40-44. I'm 42 now. I haven't seen Knut in the pool lately, but his son Tore swims on my team now (I've been swimming with the kids). He's 14 and getting taller and faster by the day, it seems.

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Elaine Krugman — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 08:52:45 GMT

OK, but only if it's a "JOY LOVES COMPANY" challenge! The only thing more joyful would be an 800 IM. MISERY = 50 ***, 50 free, 100 fly, 100 ***, stuff like that. 25s? Are you kidding me? 50 ***? :banana: I love the extremes: 50 breaststroke and brute squad! :ohyeah: But, I hear ya; we'll call it "JOY LOVES COMPANY". :D

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Swimosaur — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 08:47:41 GMT

Hey, Swimosaur, let's start something new: Instead of a gridge, this can be a "MISERY LOVES COMPANY" challenge. We'll be in this together! :chug: OK, but only if it's a "JOY LOVES COMPANY" challenge! The only thing more joyful would be an 800 IM. MISERY = 50 ***, 50 free, 100 fly, 100 ***, stuff like that. 25s? Are you kidding me?

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Swimosaur — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 08:41:11 GMT

I am at a loss for animated gifs. Almost. +1 :applaud:

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That Guy — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 05:59:17 GMT

And a new anxiety dream is born. I'm behind the blocks, getting ready to swim. My cap is fine, my goggles are fine, and then I look down to see I'm wearing only a jammer!:eek: Good to know. I'm not sure I would fit! I'd be afraid I'd end up :mooning:the spectators. And another anxiety dream is born... At NW SCM Zones today, there was a woman in a jammer! I do not know if her name was Ellen, nor do I know if she got DQ'd for competing in a 2 piece suit. We now return you to your regularly scheduled :mooning:

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Elaine Krugman — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 04:20:42 GMT

That day I'm swimming the 1650, 200 fly, and 400 IM. All on the same day. I've had my eye on it for a couple of years. You in? Hey, Swimosaur, let's start something new: Instead of a gridge, this can be a "MISERY LOVES COMPANY" challenge. We'll be in this together! :chug:

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Former Member — Sat, 20 Oct 2012 14:51:56 GMT

A jammer? For Ellen?? :afraid::blush: :D And a new anxiety dream is born. I'm behind the blocks, getting ready to swim. My cap is fine, my goggles are fine, and then I look down to see I'm wearing only a jammer!:eek: But, be forewarned: Yingfa suits run small! At 5'7", 123 lbs., I wear a 3XL; the largest size offered in my suit! :bitching: Good to know. I'm not sure I would fit! I'd be afraid I'd end up :mooning:the spectators. And another anxiety dream is born...

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Elaine Krugman — Sat, 20 Oct 2012 09:12:58 GMT

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knelson — Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:28:27 GMT

I swim 4-5 times a week, 3000-5500 m. Average weekly yardage 2011-2012 was 17500m. In my late teens I did 2-4 times this. But my masters best 1500 is less than 30 seconds behind my all time best, so I believe I'm training smarter now. Yeah, that's great! I swim sometimes with a Norwegian, Knut Landboe. He's a few years older than you, so you probably don't know him, but as you said Norge is a small country, population wise!

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Former Member — Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:04:14 GMT

I'm curious what my fellow slow twitchers do to train for the longest pool events. Of particular interest is input from those of you who also swam as a youth. With way less yardage that you used to do, what can be done to be able to survive a decent mile? Hi, I swam competetively from the age of 10 to 20. I got back four years ago, at 41. I used to swim the 1500, 2 and 4 IM, 2 *** and fly. We didn't have 800m for boys then. I do very much like Kirk Nelson. I swim 8-15x100, trying to hold as close to 1:10 as I can, or I do 9, 12 or 15x100, swimming 1-3: One quite easy (1:15), one moderate to fast (1:11-1:12) and one fast (1:08-1:09). The sendoffs vary from 1:20-1:35, according to shape and company. I aslo do sets of 50s for race pace, 20-40x50. And then I do the slower stuff, 10x200, 3-5x400, 3x800, and very rarely 1 or 2x1500. I swim all the 200+ events given a chance, so I can't spend all my yardage on freestyle. I swim 4-5 times a week, 3000-5500 m. Average weekly yardage 2011-2012 was 17500m. In my late teens I did 2-4 times this. But my masters best 1500 is less than 30 seconds behind my all time best, so I believe I'm training smarter now. I like to have the longer events early in a meet - for me it's all the relay 50s that drain me and make my muscles go 'dry' and sore. When I got back, I started practising for the same events that I'd swam as an age grouper, but from the start I focused mainly on the 800/1500. The Norwegian Masters Nationals alternate the 800 and 1500 - one year 800 for men, 1500 for women, the next year the other way around. This is done to ensure some participation in all events; we aren't that many people in Norway :) - and to stop the meets from running too long.

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pmccoy — Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:22:41 GMT

That day I'm swimming the 1650, 200 fly, and 400 IM. All on the same day. I've had my eye on it for a couple of years. You in?... and the 200 free right? I've got to drop something if I'm going to swim the 100 ***. Not sure which of the 4 will be it. I'll probably be in for the 1650. Leaning towards dropping the 200 fly this year. A lot will depend on how they do the event order this time around.

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Swimosaur — Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:05:43 GMT

A jammer? For Ellen?? :afraid::blush: :D ... Scroll down!!! There are women's suits on the page ....

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Elaine Krugman — Fri, 19 Oct 2012 10:42:47 GMT

These are popular! They are distributed by 1956 Olympian, fellow forumite, & all around good guy George Park! A jammer? For Ellen?? :afraid::blush: :D Seriously, though, I bought my women's suit from George and it has been great. But, be forewarned: Yingfa suits run small! At 5'7", 123 lbs., I wear a 3XL; the largest size offered in my suit! :bitching:

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Swimosaur — Fri, 19 Oct 2012 08:39:58 GMT

I'd tell you what kind of suit I'll have except that I am still trying to figure out what suits are like these days ... These are popular! They are distributed by 1956 Olympian, fellow forumite, & all around good guy George Park!

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Former Member — Fri, 19 Oct 2012 08:32:29 GMT

Me three! :cheerleader: We'll see you there, ekw! Look for me in a black and blue Yingfa and a USMS cap, if you don't recognize me by the picture. I will introduce you to Swimosaur. If you look at my album on Greensboro Nationals, Swimosaur is the second photo from the left. And, I am the one in the "Forumite" t-shirt in the first photo. I look forward to it. I'd tell you what kind of suit I'll have except that I am still trying to figure out what suits are like these days. Things have changed a bit in 15 years... :) I might trek over your way for the GA Tech meet in December - it would be easy to combine with a family visit.

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Elaine Krugman — Fri, 19 Oct 2012 07:51:56 GMT

Me three! I look forward to it. I'd tell you what kind of suit I'll have except that I am still trying to figure out what suits are like these days. Things have changed a bit in 15 years... :) I might trek over your way for the GA Tech meet in December - it would be easy to combine with a family visit. Great! I hope to see you there! :agree:

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Swimosaur — Fri, 19 Oct 2012 03:05:20 GMT

... and the 200 free right? ... A lot will depend on how they do the event order this time around.. I'm pretty sure the event order has been the same for at least the last three years. I assume it will be the same this year. Last year, Saturday's events were, 1 1650 yard Free 2 100 yard IM 3 200 yard Fly 4 50 yard Free 5 100 yard *** 6 100 yard Back 7 200 yard Free 8 50 yard Fly 9 400 yard IM I don't much like the 200 free, especially that close to the 4IM. Normally I swim the 100 back, but since it's a crazy day I might pick the 100 *** instead.

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knelson — Fri, 19 Oct 2012 02:12:37 GMT

What you meant is the key to faking a distance race while under prepared is to avoid going out fast. True, of course. You need to know what YOU can handle at that point in time and pace accordingly.

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Elaine Krugman — Fri, 19 Oct 2012 01:29:46 GMT

That day I'm swimming the 1650, 200 fly, and 400 IM. All on the same day. I've had my eye on it for a couple of years. You in? :ohyeah: Of course, by swimming those three events, I will have to write off any time goals for my breaststroke races that day! :afraid:

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Former Member — Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:18:25 GMT

I really think the key to a successful distance swim is knowing how fast you should start. If you haven't been training a lot of distance it's very easy to start out too fast. What seems easy at the beginning of a race might quickly turn into an unsustainable pace after a few hundred yards. That doesn't mean to start really slow, but it does mean you need to know your pace and what it feels like to swim at that pace. Um, the key to a successful distance swim is training a lot of distance. What you meant is the key to faking a distance race while under prepared is to avoid going out fast.

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Swimosaur — Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:45:08 GMT

Are you swimming the 1650, too? That day I'm swimming the 1650, 200 fly, and 400 IM. All on the same day. I've had my eye on it for a couple of years. You in?

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Elaine Krugman — Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:22:07 GMT

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Elaine Krugman — Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:16:19 GMT

You've got my vote, Elaine! :cheerleader: See you there! :banana: That's where we first met! :chug: Are you swimming the 1650, too? If not, you sure were a great counter for me at Greenville! ;)