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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/general/10711/women-swimming-topless</link><description>OK, I figured that title would get peoples&amp;#39; attention! I think this is an interesting topic and I debated posting it to the non-swimming related forum, but it is swimming related.

Anyway, here&amp;#39;s the story. A woman in Seattle has been fighting the rule</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/178213?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 12:49:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:2fd984e3-cfef-4c34-8278-76f66e9276b8</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>OK I have to take issue with the previous comment that a woman with a mastectomy is &amp;quot;not a pretty sight&amp;quot;. This woman looks beautiful to me, and strong.
She had an excellent aesthetic result (and hopefully addressed the cancer as well) compared to what I have seen in the past (nurse).&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/178131?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 10:05:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:fa784ff8-82d4-4c80-9ab5-c6e90c816d33</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Why on earth should she have to wear anything if she has no breasts, and why does it bother ANY of you? The prohibition against bare breasts is codified by law most places, she now meets the same criteria as a male swimmer.
 
If someones scars make you uncomfortable, that is your issue, not theirs. As far as &amp;quot;special treatment&amp;quot; goes, there isn&amp;#39;t any being afforded, she simply meets the male standard now.
 
All this puritanical crap is irritating.
THANK YOU!
I am somewhat baffled that people on here would actually have an issue with this.This woman is athletic,wants to train,and has found that swimming gives her an outlet after going through the ordeal she endured.But having a double mastectomy traumatizes nerves and tissue-often times for ever.And thus wearing anytype of suit that fits snugly on the body,would agravate her pain.I aplaud her for persevering and finding something that gives her purpose-and seing her body should be no worse then a swimmer entering the pool with missing limbs.
Consider this-your discomfort in seing her without a full suit is going to be a fraction of what she has had to deal with in fighting cancer.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/178076?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:57:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:1a237523-522d-4a95-a0ea-32b42b119639</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>The greatest woman freestyle swimmer ever always tried to swim topless if possible, but she really wanted to race topless. Back then womens suits had to have a skirt included.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/177986?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2012 10:25:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:80adb607-48b2-4579-9685-e5d459740b10</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Linda McGill swam the Engklish Channel topless in 1967, She also swam the round Manhatten swim about 1974 the same way, she did not like chafing from her suits on these long swims. look her up on google she was a great swimmer and probably still is. Shes a Assuie so there probably long used to the look down under.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/177971?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2012 09:07:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:32c483d7-a26b-4f54-9316-0559163e93da</guid><dc:creator>gobears</dc:creator><description>OK I have to take issue with the previous comment that a woman with a mastectomy is &amp;quot;not a pretty sight&amp;quot;. This woman looks beautiful to me, and strong.

QFT.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/177863?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2012 15:23:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:b910bd2d-276c-4e51-b8d8-9c553d096e02</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>The picture in this story makes it even more clear cut in my book:
&lt;a href="http://todayhealth.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/21/12343787-***-cancer-survivor-can-now-swim-topless-in-seattles-public-pools?lite"&gt;todayhealth.today.msnbc.msn.com/.../12343787-***-cancer-survivor-can-now-swim-topless-in-seattles-public-pools&lt;/a&gt;

She has no breasts. What&amp;#39;s the problem?

OK I have to take issue with the previous comment that a woman with a mastectomy is &amp;quot;not a pretty sight&amp;quot;. This woman looks beautiful to me, and strong.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/177696?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:00:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:5c0bad1f-9d9f-4fb5-9a8c-92bdc261d20f</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Maybe, maybe not, but it is no more irritating than pretending to be some liberated libertine and all Euro-fancy.  Then again, this ranks high on the first world problems list.
If you&amp;#39;re saying I&amp;#39;m pretending, you&amp;#39;re wrong.  Thankfully I spent a large portion of my youth in Europe; it was great living where the human body isn&amp;#39;t completely sexualized.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/177443?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 12:21:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:65d815e9-9cff-4be8-bda6-aa8c5d3e2930</guid><dc:creator>jaadams1</dc:creator><description>Kinda along this line, but opposite.  I&amp;#39;ve seen a number of MEN that should wear some kind of top/shirt/etc. as well.  Pool, backyard, beach, whatever.  Sometimes they&amp;#39;re bigger than the women, yet can go without any covering. :afraid:&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/177853?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 11:13:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:08d1d626-9e21-4d2a-9f2a-4b05f19bb982</guid><dc:creator>jaadams1</dc:creator><description>The picture in this story makes it even more clear cut in my book:
&lt;a href="http://todayhealth.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/21/12343787-***-cancer-survivor-can-now-swim-topless-in-seattles-public-pools?lite"&gt;todayhealth.today.msnbc.msn.com/.../12343787-***-cancer-survivor-can-now-swim-topless-in-seattles-public-pools&lt;/a&gt;
 
She has no breasts. What&amp;#39;s the problem?
 
Not a problem.  Go swim!
 
 
And from the article...
&amp;quot;It wouldn&amp;#39;t be an issue for us because any woman can swim topless here,&amp;quot; says Jodi Jay, the aquatics division program manager for the Austin, Texas  Parks and Recreation Department
 
May have to check this out...&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/177559?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 10:42:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:3c851135-1982-4858-88e7-99d03db09a60</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Why on earth should she have to wear anything if she has no breasts, and why does it bother ANY of you?  The prohibition against bare breasts is codified by law most places, she now meets the same criteria as a male swimmer.

If someones scars make you uncomfortable, that is your issue, not theirs. As far as &amp;quot;special treatment&amp;quot; goes, there isn&amp;#39;t any being afforded, she simply meets the male standard now.

All this puritanical crap is irritating.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/177778?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 10:01:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:6645a032-a00c-4af7-afc1-acc565819db6</guid><dc:creator>knelson</dc:creator><description>topless Kate Upton competing in masters.

I suspect backstroke would be her best stroke.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/177671?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 09:51:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:60ebecc2-5abc-47d6-ae6a-2fdb27bd8d3a</guid><dc:creator>aquageek</dc:creator><description>All this puritanical crap is irritating.

Maybe, maybe not, but it is no more irritating than pretending to be some liberated libertine and all Euro-fancy.  Then again, this ranks high on the first world problems list.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/177833?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 09:35:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:17f8a2ae-de68-44a1-a330-27bc378b723d</guid><dc:creator>gigi</dc:creator><description>The picture in this story makes it even more clear cut in my book:
&lt;a href="http://todayhealth.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/21/12343787-***-cancer-survivor-can-now-swim-topless-in-seattles-public-pools?lite"&gt;todayhealth.today.msnbc.msn.com/.../12343787-***-cancer-survivor-can-now-swim-topless-in-seattles-public-pools&lt;/a&gt;

She has no breasts. What&amp;#39;s the problem?

I agree totally.  If the problem with topless bathing for women is a concern over exposed breasts, then this woman clearly doesn&amp;#39;t need to wear a top.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/177649?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 09:27:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:c5d4dad8-f88f-4289-94f0-3640c531f4ec</guid><dc:creator>gobears</dc:creator><description>Why on earth should she have to wear anything if she has no breasts, and why does it bother ANY of you?  The prohibition against bare breasts is codified by law most places, she now meets the same criteria as a male swimmer.

If someones scars make you uncomfortable, that is your issue, not theirs. As far as &amp;quot;special treatment&amp;quot; goes, there isn&amp;#39;t any being afforded, she simply meets the male standard now.

All this puritanical crap is irritating.

Exactly.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/177805?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 09:11:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:d34f72c5-d5d2-4bb9-ac6b-28cbca87efa4</guid><dc:creator>knelson</dc:creator><description>The picture in this story makes it even more clear cut in my book:
&lt;a href="http://todayhealth.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/21/12343787-***-cancer-survivor-can-now-swim-topless-in-seattles-public-pools?lite"&gt;todayhealth.today.msnbc.msn.com/.../12343787-***-cancer-survivor-can-now-swim-topless-in-seattles-public-pools&lt;/a&gt;

She has no breasts. What&amp;#39;s the problem?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/177455?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 05:53:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:afddf04e-36a6-4a98-8be0-93d27aafc004</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Allowing women with no breasts and mastectomy scars to swim topless would make the sport more popular? Gee, not sure about that.

Those are minor details which I like to avoid thinking about. I&amp;#39;d rather focus on the bigger picture of the title of your thread- like topless Kate Upton competing in masters.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/177372?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 14:40:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:90c0db2d-b4de-4b31-982d-797317ae8d70</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>As someone pointed out--the scar tissue can be sensitive for quite a long time after it appears to be healed.  Think along the lines of someone having &amp;quot;phantom pain&amp;quot; from an amputation.   The scars itch and are raised for sometime after the surgery and you&amp;#39;ve healed.  Even the suits designed for post mastectomy patients can&amp;#39;t be that comfortable.  

do you think a man would want to have to stick on parts of his anatomy to look &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; if he had something removed?   The products are either stuck to the skin with a surgical tape or the roughness of the fabric in the cups can be very irritating to somewhat raw skin.

And how come most of the people responding appear to be males?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/177256?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:35:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:42a28685-ef86-41af-a6c8-3fb5aaab6548</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I fixed your post to help answer your question.

Sorry, but you are wrong. I did mean &amp;quot;non-cancer survivors&amp;quot;. Note I said &amp;quot;what next&amp;quot;. She&amp;#39;s already advocating on behalf of the cancer survivors.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/177360?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 09:35:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:b7c7a13d-7d06-4d2a-8e95-814d3080ebfa</guid><dc:creator>knelson</dc:creator><description>There is an entire industry that has built up around women who had had a singular or double mastectomy. She can easily purchase an Mastectomy swimsuit.

So are any of these suits actually suitable for someone who wants to swim laps seriously or are they mainly designed so women can wear prosthetics under them? Serious question--I don&amp;#39;t know.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/177175?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 09:22:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:78fb20d9-c1db-4335-926c-69f885f002d8</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>I don&amp;#39;t understand. This woman originally raised the request because of her special situation. She got what she wanted and can swim the way she wants now. Glad? Nope. Now she&amp;#39;s asking for more. What next? Advocating for the same on behalf of non-cancer survivors?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/177348?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 09:06:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:a1c3322f-1578-446f-8655-d07778dd9519</guid><dc:creator>__steve__</dc:creator><description>Swimsuit manufacturers do in fact make suits specifically designed for women who&amp;#39;ve had  mastectomy 

wonder if she knew&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/177335?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:48:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:0ebd7e64-3a88-40ed-bbd4-df1ec7b2a683</guid><dc:creator>Bill Sive</dc:creator><description>Firstly, a woman with a double mastectomy, without a shirt on is not a pretty sight.  I feel for the lady.  I could never imagine where she is emotionally.

Secondly, I believe this woman is just seeking special treatment.  There is an entire industry that has built up around women who had had a singular or double mastectomy. She can easily purchase an Mastectomy swimsuit.

&lt;a href="http://www.exava.com/shop?lddisa=104503723&amp;amp;q=mastectomy+bathing+suits&amp;amp;gclid=CKSq-4fN4LACFQ5rhwodnm1X0w&amp;amp;refdisa=gsm&amp;amp;adid=12194405952"&gt;www.exava.com/shop&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href="http://www.mastectomyshop.com/categories/Swimwear/"&gt;www.mastectomyshop.com/.../&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href="http://www.hapari.com/hapari-mastectomy-swimwear/"&gt;www.hapari.com/.../&lt;/a&gt;

Lastly, you have to give this lady credit for being courageous enough to want to swim topless after having a double mastectomy.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/177014?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 07:10:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:59d68372-ec02-4701-baeb-a3c33b0ff1fd</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>i understand the health issues you brought up, but, from a swimming point of view - why would you want to?  a suit that would cover your upper body and make you more bouyant vs a jammer?  
 
in college i had a wart removed on my inner leg.  when i would kick, i could feel the wart rubbing against my other leg so i had it removed.  The sports medicine people put a clear plastic sticky thing over that part of my leg after the wart was removed to keep the area dry and to prevent rubbing.  the reason i am bringing this up is because i would find a way around an uncomfortable suit that would provide more speed (like preventing the rubbing with that plastic sticky stuff i had) vs wearing a slower suit designed for men (good luck finding one that fits with womens hips).&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/177318?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 06:57:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:f54de00c-5f6f-4450-bf1d-30596e8baf9d</guid><dc:creator>knelson</dc:creator><description>I don&amp;#39;t understand. This woman originally raised the request because of her special situation. She got what she wanted and can swim the way she wants now.

Yes, she can, but what about others with similar issues? As things stand now they are out of luck, or--I guess I should say--they must follow the existing rules. To me the worst possible outcome is this woman gets her own special rule that only applies to her.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Women Swimming Topless!</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/176930?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 06:40:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:a4f10a03-781d-43a1-9ae5-761d75bf089c</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>This would definitely increase the popularity of the sport.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>