Breathing on the first stroke in distance free

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jaadams1 — Sun, 27 May 2012 12:31:31 GMT

So every time you log in, you do a search for those two words? I'm sure he's got a macro set up that send him a text message/email/phone call/fire alarm every time "that" and "the other word" show up next to each other.

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__steve__ — Sun, 27 May 2012 12:13:56 GMT

The guys head is almost completely submerged www.megabody.com/.../swimming-go-swim-straight-arm-freestyle-with-scott-tucker-video_0483ca610.html

RE: Breathing on the first stroke in distance free

Rich B. — Sun, 27 May 2012 04:57:49 GMT

Note: "The guy"

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ddskier63 — Sun, 27 May 2012 01:06:00 GMT

This isn't a question relating to distance freestyle but it is a question about breathing in a freestyle event. In a 50m long course freestyle event, I'm taking a single breath. My question: where in the course of the swim should I take my breath? At the 25m mark? Will that quick breath at 25m allow enough time for the oxygen to reach my muscles before the end of the race? If I take my breath sooner than the 25m mark will I feel like my lungs will explode prior to finishing the race? Will my streamline and technique fall apart as I focus solely on my desperate desire to seek oxygen? Thoughts?

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Former Member — Sat, 26 May 2012 16:54:20 GMT

I think Sun Yang is similiar to The Albatross. Here is that crazy 1984 4x200 where Hayes pulled out an amazing performance, but I am linking it so you can see Michael Gross breathing on the first stroke. 1984 Olympic Men's 4x200m Freestyle Relay final - YouTube 6:25, 6:52 Gross was listed at 6'7" with a wingspan of nearly 7', and I understand Sun Yang is 6'6" with a notably big wingspan as well. I never get tired of watching that race. I was never very good, but I was at USC in the early 80's and trained with both Float and Fahrner.

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Former Member — Sat, 26 May 2012 14:51:16 GMT

Why thank you! You should probably encounter more swimmers, however. After I hit "submit reply" I thought crap, I better edit that. Then decided nah, he won't catch it. So every time you log in, you do a search for those two words?

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Former Member — Sat, 26 May 2012 12:04:08 GMT

That's cool ! In the footage I've seen he manages to take a breath while the top goggle lense is still partially submerged. I keep the bottom one under, but not both. That guy was the most talented swimmer I ever encountered. He just skimmed across the top of the water. When I knew him, he wasn't particularly interested in pushing himself, but would do whatever the coach told him to without complaint. Since this is a distance thread, I'll make a relevant tie in. One time, 100 meter guy Scott Tucker did LCM 12x400 on 5:00 with me.

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__steve__ — Sat, 26 May 2012 11:22:58 GMT

As conclusion you breath for optimal results when racing. Practice will cover finding what is optimal, an ongoing experiment, but useless unless I learn how to breath efficiently. Otherwise I'll be better off holding my breath, which is slower for anything over a length. As standard for efficient breathing it is safe to say Sun Yang's approach is the the ideal model. Scott Tucker is another.

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That Guy — Sat, 26 May 2012 08:31:44 GMT

That guy was the most talented swimmer I ever encountered. Why thank you! You should probably encounter more swimmers, however.

RE: Breathing on the first stroke in distance free

__steve__ — Sat, 26 May 2012 06:06:51 GMT

That's cool ! In the footage I've seen he manages to take a breath while the top goggle lense is still partially submerged. I keep the bottom one under, but not both.

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Former Member — Sat, 26 May 2012 05:09:55 GMT

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Former Member — Thu, 24 May 2012 13:18:08 GMT

Same here. Unlike the standardized camera angle from the bleachers, the overhead view dramatically changes the perspective of each race. You really get a sense of how fast they're actually moving. Hope they do lots of this during the broadcast this summer. Someone took all the underwaters shots, strung them together and saved it in slow motion. If you want to get your stroke distance close to 2m/stroke, it is quite educational. Sun Yang Front Crawl Technique (Under Water & Slow Motion) - YouTube

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__steve__ — Thu, 24 May 2012 11:12:59 GMT

His position resembles someone with a pull buoy. Feet and hips high without much effort to maintain this position, even with looking slightly forward. I guess he his the perfect build for distance swimming

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Former Member — Thu, 24 May 2012 07:26:47 GMT

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Former Member — Wed, 23 May 2012 16:54:53 GMT

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Former Member — Wed, 23 May 2012 14:38:39 GMT

I love the overhead shots. Same here. Unlike the standardized camera angle from the bleachers, the overhead view dramatically changes the perspective of each race. You really get a sense of how fast they're actually moving. Hope they do lots of this during the broadcast this summer.

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Former Member — Wed, 23 May 2012 08:54:55 GMT

You're very welcome. He's an amazing swimmer. Flawless technique, like TI but at a very unique level. How anyone can bring home the last 100 of the mile in :54.2 is beyond remarkable. The podium definitely awaits him this summer. Back to the thread topic, staying fresh probably helped him crank it up a knotch at the end.

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Former Member — Wed, 23 May 2012 06:19:49 GMT

I have been experimenting with sneaking a breath right before the turn versus breathing on the first stroke. Right now I am thinking breathing on the first stroke seems better.

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Former Member — Wed, 23 May 2012 05:43:42 GMT

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Former Member — Wed, 23 May 2012 05:38:07 GMT

No wonder you're so fast. Just how many arms do have??? :D Funny guy. No one's ever accused me of being fast before. Seriously, I push off on the left side, pull with the bottom arm (left), pull with the right arm (left arm is now in the air) then breathe when the left hand hits. Is that the first stroke or the third?

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knelson — Wed, 23 May 2012 05:32:32 GMT

You're very welcome. He's an amazing swimmer. Flawless technique, like TI but at a very unique level. I love the overhead shots. His body line is incredible. He's like an arrow in the water.

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smontanaro — Wed, 23 May 2012 05:05:04 GMT

Funny guy. No one's ever accused me of being fast before. Seriously, I push off on the left side, pull with the bottom arm (left), pull with the right arm (left arm is now in the air) then breathe when the left hand hits. Is that the first stroke or the third? I only count two pulls. Pull with the left, pull with the right, breathe. I don't see how you can take three strokes and only have one hand entry. I must be missing something. I'll have to mess around at the pool in the AM... Skip

RE: Breathing on the first stroke in distance free

Rich Abrahams — Wed, 23 May 2012 03:19:50 GMT

Staying oxygenated obviously has its benefits. Sun Yang has been know to breathe not just every stroke but every arm cycle. You can see him do that right after the first turn in this clip. And on every turn after that. Shanghai Aquatics 2011 - Sun Yang is the new 1500M world record holder (Part 2 of 2) - YouTube Thanks for posting the video. Sun Yang's swim is a thing of beauty. Technically flawless. 27 strokes a length LCM is unreal. I'm waiting to see what he does in London. Maybe he'll start picking up the pace before his last 100!

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smontanaro — Wed, 23 May 2012 01:09:42 GMT

I always breath on the first hand strike, which is the third arm pull. No wonder you're so fast. Just how many arms do have??? :D

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Former Member — Tue, 22 May 2012 11:34:50 GMT

In the finals of the 1500 at Worlds, I noticed that all of the swimmers were breathing on the first stroke coming out of their turns instead of taking a pull with the deeper arm and breathing on the second stroke. Any thoughts? Staying oxygenated obviously has its benefits. Sun Yang has been know to breathe not just every stroke but every arm cycle. You can see him do that right after the first turn in this clip. And on every turn after that. Shanghai Aquatics 2011 - Sun Yang is the new 1500M world record holder (Part 2 of 2) - YouTube