100 Freestyle Endurance

RE: 100 Freestyle Endurance

Former Member — Sun, 27 May 2012 15:21:55 GMT

8 x 25 @ 25 or 20 flat out 50-100 easy Do this 3-4 x Distance days do 200s at a medium hard pace, ie 5 x 200 @ 2:40 holding 2:25. Scale times to your level.

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Former Member — Thu, 24 May 2012 15:44:50 GMT

You left out - wondering at the 1000 if you got out and quit if anyone would notice, or care. Only those who are still awake.

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aquageek — Thu, 24 May 2012 11:31:35 GMT

The problem with guys like Bill and me is visualization for a 1650 gets problematic. After about 800 I start to wonder who could enjoy watching this swim and usually about 1400 I wonder was that 54 or 56 lengths; so I need to start all over. You left out - wondering at the 1000 if you got out and quit if anyone would notice, or care.

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Rob Copeland — Thu, 24 May 2012 09:04:50 GMT

Since this thread is about the 100 Free, then visualization exercises can be useful. The problem with guys like Bill and me is visualization for a 1650 gets problematic. After about 800 I start to wonder who could enjoy watching this swim and usually about 1400 I wonder was that 54 or 56 lengths; so I need to start all over. In the old days I would sit with my coach and build a race strategy and think about (visualize) various aspects of the swim. Now I get up on the block and think only 66 more to go! :cheerleader:

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Former Member — Thu, 24 May 2012 05:37:48 GMT

Next time I fill up, I'll try to remember to get a time on my "Walter Mitty Mile."

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Former Member — Thu, 24 May 2012 05:30:13 GMT

". . . The problem with guys like Bill and me is visualization for a 1650 gets problematic. After about 800 I start to wonder who could enjoy watching this swim and usually about 1400 I wonder was that 54 or 56 lengths; so I need to start all over." Perhaps I should post this in the "you know you're a swimmer" thread but --- when putting gas in my car I watch the pump speed through my dollars much faster than I could ever plow through SCY lengths on my way to the $66 mark, imagining every turn, hearing the roar of the crowd, feeling the effortless speed through the water. And then sometimes, for a different experience, I'll watch the gallon register as it rapidly heads towards 15 gallons, those long course laps whizzzing by with so little fatigue. That Chinese guy will never be able to match my pace! And just to show him how far he is in over his head, I throw in a few extra laps without slowing down one bit! When the pump finally stops I have to hold myself back from fist pumping (it might require an embarrassing explanation that only you folks could possibly understand) and instead just put the gas cap back on and continue with my day.

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Elaine Krugman — Thu, 24 May 2012 02:37:34 GMT

Next time I fill up, I'll try to remember to get a time on my "Walter Mitty Mile." :lolup: :laugh2: :lmao: :rofl: :applaud:

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Elaine Krugman — Thu, 24 May 2012 01:32:13 GMT

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Michael Heather — Thu, 24 May 2012 01:08:06 GMT

I've never been a believer in this thinking through a race concept, seems overly 1970s to me. Too bad. Visualization is used extensively by some current, very successful swimmers who will be in London picking up hardware later this summer.

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Former Member — Wed, 23 May 2012 16:48:39 GMT

I try not to think at all, which comes quite naturally to me. in short

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Former Member — Wed, 23 May 2012 15:12:16 GMT

thinking through a race concept, seems overly 1970s to me. Sounds like a distance approach to racing. In sprints you have no time to think while racing so you have to think about the details before the race. Every pushoff, every streamline, every dolphin kick, every breath, and every stroke matter in a sprint. Why not think about and perhaps plan them out beforehand? "You don't have time to think up there... if you think, you're dead."

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Former Member — Wed, 23 May 2012 14:16:15 GMT

I've never been a believer in this thinking through a race concept, seems overly 1970s to me. In fact, I try not to think at all during a race, which comes quite naturally to me. The more thinking you do the more you start asking yourself is it worth it for a free medal or t-shirt. So, I just shut off the brain and just go with the maxi-pain approach. Depends on what you think!!

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knelson — Wed, 23 May 2012 12:41:15 GMT

Is this advanced physics reasoning where the space time continuum is bent? I guess I should have specified "on a percentage basis" to satisfy all the wise guys out there. In other words one second is 5% of a 20 second swim, but only 3.3% of a 30 second swim.

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aquageek — Wed, 23 May 2012 07:19:32 GMT

Thinking through a race before you get wet is one of the most effective ways to win, if not go faster. I've never been a believer in this thinking through a race concept, seems overly 1970s to me. In fact, I try not to think at all during a race, which comes quite naturally to me. The more thinking you do the more you start asking yourself is it worth it for a free medal or t-shirt. So, I just shut off the brain and just go with the maxi-pain approach.

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aquageek — Wed, 23 May 2012 02:37:49 GMT

Sounds like a distance approach to racing. In sprints you have no time to think while racing so you have to think about the details before the race. Every pushoff, every streamline, every dolphin kick, every breath, and every stroke matter in a sprint. Why not think about and perhaps plan them out beforehand? Another day, another special requirement for sprinters.

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Michael Heather — Wed, 23 May 2012 02:37:14 GMT

If you are serious about training to swim the 100 faster, do not get stuck looking for the perfect workout. And don't forget the brain. Thinking through a race before you get wet is one of the most effective ways to win, if not go faster. Imagine the entire race over and over days before it happens and you will be very comfortable while swimming. Extra speed comes wrapped in many packages. Open all of them and you cannot help but go faster. Remember, when you are hurting at 85 yards, so is everyone else. Keep your stroke together, kick hard and keep your head down. Swim all the way to the wall. The clock will still be there when you look up.

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__steve__ — Wed, 23 May 2012 01:08:42 GMT

Technical programming leading up to the event, positive organization just prior, autopilot (brain-stem mode) during, then if you fail you hit the reset button. My reset button has been used exclusively for two years. I won't be needing it on June 2.

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Former Member — Tue, 22 May 2012 16:47:16 GMT

Very good point, but I'd also suggest you experiment with which is faster. For some swimmers, maximizing underwaters makes sense because they have a powerful SDK; for others, maybe just ensuring they get out far enough to slip under the water wave and getting to the top of the water is faster. Yes, SDK isn't for everyone, you are correct. Masters swimmers have a wide range of turn ability from superstar to superman. All I meant was to make sure the OP is making the best use of the wall. If SDK is strong then that can be added too. I get my feet out past the flags just by streamline push and not even engaging my SDK. If OP is supermanning, no streamline, and not making the flags there's definite gains to be had just on the pushoffs.

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Former Member — Tue, 22 May 2012 16:27:08 GMT

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Former Member — Tue, 22 May 2012 14:26:11 GMT

Sprint kick sets should be included along with the rest of your sprint training. Kicking 700 continuous is not as helpful as kicking a couple all out 25s for your 100.

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Former Member — Tue, 22 May 2012 13:50:11 GMT

Translation: I compete in events that nobody does, so that I look more talented than I actually am. & that comment doesn't hold water considering pwb just finished 2nd in the most stacked masters race in history: www.usms.org/.../index.php (scroll down to the 500)

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Patrick W. Brundage — Tue, 22 May 2012 12:31:22 GMT

One other thing no one has really touched on is... How are your turns? If you are not maximizing your underwaters, you're taking more strokes per race. If you can get an extra body length or two out of your underwater push on each turn, thats 4-6 strokes you won't have to take in that race. It could be like swimming a 85 or 90y race as far as your arms go... and theres some to maybe be gained on the start too. Just something to think about.Very good point, but I'd also suggest you experiment with which is faster. For some swimmers, maximizing underwaters makes sense because they have a powerful SDK; for others, maybe just ensuring they get out far enough to slip under the water wave and getting to the top of the water is faster.

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Former Member — Tue, 22 May 2012 11:38:43 GMT

Can I choose D? All of the above. Hmmm... a smaller longer static unit of time might be good for the streamline.

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Former Member — Tue, 22 May 2012 11:28:18 GMT

Let's also not forget one second is a lot more if you can do a 50 in 20 seconds versus if you can do a 50 in 30 seconds. Is this advanced physics reasoning where the space time continuum is bent? As a swimmer approaches the speed of light a second A) Becomes longer B) Is a static unit of that is the same no matter what universe the swimmer is in C) Becomes smaller (the water is cold, al'right?)

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ande — Tue, 22 May 2012 10:56:33 GMT

Hey everyone, I am freestyle sprinter and recently I've been trying to improve my 100 free time which I've done (dropped about 5 seconds) but I need help with one issue in particular. When I swim the 100 I like to swim all out from the start instead of pacing myself at the beginning then trying to turn it on near the end. I find myself starting to drag halfway through the 75 so by the time I'm on the last 25 I am extremely exhausted. I still get good times though! My question and perhaps there are some sprinters here that can help me with this is.. are there any workouts that can help with maintaining the last half of a 100 freestyle? I really need to build endurance for this. Also, perhaps my breathing is messed up? I prefer to breath no more than two times the first 25, no more than 3 times the 2nd 25 and I use the 3rd 25 as the length to get whatever needed air I need so I can keep my head down the last 25 as much as possible and bring it home. Any suggestions would be a great help! You want to improve to improve your 100 free time What are your 25, 50, 75, 100, 150 & 200 free times? how old are you? height weight do you train with a coach & time or by yourself how many times a week do you train? how far per practice? are you lifting weights? do you have any videos of you swimming? How's your flutter kick with a board? What are your times for 25, 50, 75, 100, 150, & 200 kick? Got any videos of you swimming, please provide youtube links. When you swim the 100, you go all out from the start instead of pacing yourself and you get real tired near the end of your race what is your best 100 & how did you split it? what was your time at the 50? what was your 2nd 50? whats the difference between the 2? BTW everybody gets tired, everybody hurts when they sprint a 100, it might help you to correctly split your 100 are there any workouts that can help with maintaining the last half of a 100 freestyle? there's plenty but you really didn't provide enough info about you to really figure out what might be best for you I really need to build endurance for this. you need speed endurance Your breathing is messed up breathing no more than two times on your first 25, & no more than 3 times the 2nd 25 might be a mistake it really depends on your times I suggest you pick a pattern like every 4 you need air when you race, but I don't know your times, so give us more info and we'll give you more suggestions. Ande