https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/general/10566/butterfly-problemsI am over 65 and when I swim butterfly I can&#39;t seem to keep my hands on the surface while my hips go up. I press my chest but my arms just go down. If I keep them up then no undulation. I think I am probably too stiff in the shoulder girdle or thoracicen-USTelligent Community 12https://community.usms.org/thread/174787?ContentTypeID=1Tue, 03 Apr 2012 04:22:07 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:711041b0-5e9a-4f59-a849-a5e268cf7760orca1946Are you kicking down as your hands are extending out front?<div style="clear:both;"></div>https://community.usms.org/thread/174727?ContentTypeID=1Sun, 01 Apr 2012 11:54:21 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:a1b77502-806a-4d1e-93c9-5a515b158e18Former MemberTry some stretches? Won&#39;t solve but might help. Stand in a doorway with your forearms on the doorframe elbows at shoulder height. Gently push your chest forward until you feel a stretch. I always have done some in-pool stretches during and after my warmup.<div style="clear:both;"></div>