CrossFit Endurance

RE: CrossFit Endurance

Former Member — Sun, 13 May 2012 13:16:06 GMT

I do not know that much about the Crossfit program, but when my team had our training trip in Florida we worked out in a Crossfit gym one time. The gym was an abandoned warehouse and the guy who owned it lived there. It was actually a really cool place though, because the owner also worked out there and was the trainer. I will say that the workout that we got there was like nothing else. This was after our morning workout, and we only had around 3 hours until our afternoon practice. Some how we pushed through it, but I do not think I've ever worked harder than when I was in that gym.

RE: CrossFit Endurance

Former Member — Fri, 11 May 2012 16:12:44 GMT

I'm not sure if crossfit is a healthy, sustainable addition to most people's lives. The founder of Crossfit isn't sticking with the program. www.nytimes.com/.../22Fitness.html Mr. Glassman, 49, a former gymnast from Santa Cruz, Calif., walks with a slight limp because of a knee injury, and at 5-foot-7 and 185 pounds admits he should lose weight. He began developing CrossFit more than two decades ago, but he says that he spends so much time running the business now that he no longer regularly does the routines.

RE: CrossFit Endurance

Former Member — Mon, 07 May 2012 07:18:11 GMT

Here's my timeline: -Started swimming the first week of January after 12 years off. -All of Jan & Feb: Swam ~5,000 yds/day 4 to 5 times per week + ~1 crossfit workout per week (Built up to that slowly in the first few weeks, of course) Best times: 50 Free: 28.56 50 Fly: 31.82 -March: Injured Rib. (Never went away, still have the pain). Took 2 weeks+ off, other than the meet on the 11th. - March 11 swim meet (converted SCM to SCY): 50 Fly: 30.28 -March 19: Started swimming no more than 2,000 yards twice per week + ~4 crossfit workouts per week -March 23 swim meet: 50 Free: 28.24 50 Fly: 30.47 -Nationals, 4/27 - 4/29 50 Free: 26.78 50 Fly: 28.33 If I am reading this correctly: you went from a 30.28 50 fly March 11th, to a 28.33 April 27th. Your March 11th swim was two months after a 12 year haitus. First: congratulations on coming back and getting best times. That is exciting. But since we are having a X-fit discussion here goes: the improvement you showed probably would have been matched with just about any type of training regiment that involved getting stronger and swimming twice per week. You did the work, be proud of it. Give credit where it is due: it belongs to you, not some silly marketing gimmick.

RE: CrossFit Endurance

__steve__ — Sun, 06 May 2012 08:27:00 GMT

crossfit is just strength training employed together with other full-body targeting activities in such a way to engage aerobic, anaerobic and flexibility mechanisms isn't it That has been around for years, but now "cross fit" gets credit

RE: CrossFit Endurance

Calvin S — Fri, 04 May 2012 04:07:51 GMT

I do think the Crossfit workouts benefit my swimming, but again, our club team goes to the workouts as a group and then do a specially modified WOD (or something completely different). Our sessions are "Crossfit" in name only at times. I post our Crossfit workouts in my blog if you are interested to see what we do. I have also started swimming on my own BEFORE the Crossfit workouts (Tuesday/Thursday) because I will say it is TOUGH to swim with any sort of speed or "good" feel for the water right after a rough Crossfit session.

RE: CrossFit Endurance

Former Member — Thu, 03 May 2012 05:58:48 GMT

I know some people thought that I just posted this in order to post some "Crossfit propaganda". I don't want to spark any debates or upset anyone but I do want to update this just in case someone in the future is looking into CFE and reads this. I will say right off the bat that I didn't follow the full CFE program as intended since I didn't have enough time to do one of the full 12 week phases. So, I wouldn't say my results definitively prove anything. But they are still blowing my mind so I thought it was worth sharing. Here's my timeline: -Started swimming the first week of January after 12 years off. -All of Jan & Feb: Swam ~5,000 yds/day 4 to 5 times per week + ~1 crossfit workout per week (Built up to that slowly in the first few weeks, of course) Best times: 50 Free: 28.56 50 Fly: 31.82 -March: Injured Rib. (Never went away, still have the pain). Took 2 weeks+ off, other than the meet on the 11th. - March 11 swim meet (converted SCM to SCY): 50 Fly: 30.28 -March 19: Started swimming no more than 2,000 yards twice per week + ~4 crossfit workouts per week -March 23 swim meet: 50 Free: 28.24 50 Fly: 30.47 -Nationals, 4/27 - 4/29 50 Free: 26.78 50 Fly: 28.33 Those two times from nationals are lifetime bests for me. I never thought that I'd get anywhere near that. Especially with the injury and getting as little pool time as I did all of March & April. I was positive that I was going to ADD time at nationals since I felt like I barely trained at all in the last two months. It still feels like the clocks were just all wrong. To be fair, I don't know if it was the CFE program, or getting my nutrition dialed in (since Jan.), or the fancy knee suit or the excitement of the big meet, etc. But I do know that the CFE program didn't hurt me. If anyone reading this tries out the program or has already done so please PM me! I'd love to talk about it!!! Now I'm torn between training for Omaha and taking time off to let this rib heal before training for next year!

RE: CrossFit Endurance

Former Member — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 11:28:45 GMT

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RE: CrossFit Endurance

Former Member — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:44:03 GMT

It's funny because when my CF trainer first tried to get me onto this program I resisted like crazy and threw out all of the same reasons you guys did and then some. But the more I learn about it the more I trust the science behind it. I'm still wary because it goes against everything I know as a swimmer. Like you guys said, if you want to be a better swimmer - spend more time in the pool. But I'm trying to keep an open mind. It's really all I can do at this point so I might as well go full steam ahead with it. Always remember that these guys are trying to sell you something. BTW... Maybe your rib injury is more closely associated with CrossFit than with swimming.

RE: CrossFit Endurance

Former Member — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:59:25 GMT

Oh, and if you watched those videos here is an update on their team: SJSU Women’s Swim Team WAC Champions

RE: CrossFit Endurance

Former Member — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:57:47 GMT

I guess this kind of a response is to be expected. And like I said, I'm not terribly happy about it and I'd rather be in the pool as much as possible but it's not really an option for me. So I'm going to give this program a shot. I do believe in crossfit and that it can absolutely benefit a swimmer. I also believe that the guys in the videos happen to be crossfitters trying to benefit from swimming - not the other way around. But the principles should still hold. It's funny because when my CF trainer first tried to get me onto this program I resisted like crazy and threw out all of the same reasons you guys did and then some. But the more I learn about it the more I trust the science behind it. I'm still wary because it goes against everything I know as a swimmer. Like you guys said, if you want to be a better swimmer - spend more time in the pool. But I'm trying to keep an open mind. It's really all I can do at this point so I might as well go full steam ahead with it. And if you're going to spend any time watching the swim videos from the site these are the ones to watch: Bringing CrossFit to College Swimming CrossFit and Swim Training CrossFit Moxie: Fortitude and Determination And particularly: Yards: Swimming with Champions

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Former Member — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:56:54 GMT

Noooo, not at all. I was hoping to hear about anyone doing the specific CrossFit Endurance Swimming program. A whole different program than general CF. I wrote at the beginning that I've been doing crossfit for awhile and I believe in it. I was actually hoping to find someone else doing the specific single sport swimming CFE workouts. Never intended for a general crossfit debate.

RE: CrossFit Endurance

Former Member — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:50:11 GMT

I guess it can't be all bad... FASTER ON LAND AND WATER: HANNAH CALDAS So when you asked "what do you think about CrossFit", you really meant "let me show you some CrossFit propaganda."

RE: CrossFit Endurance

Former Member — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:47:02 GMT

I guess it can't be all bad... FASTER ON LAND AND WATER: HANNAH CALDAS

RE: CrossFit Endurance

knelson — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 11:51:29 GMT

I'm sure CrossFit is a good program and it does make people stronger, but the culty feeling it has annoys me. It seems like everyone that does it has to tell you how it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

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poolraat — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 11:38:54 GMT

So I watched one of the videos (Swim WOD). Probably the worst attempted swim training I've ever seen. You can tell just by looking at the guy that he is a bad swimmer. I looked closely to figure out why. Probably the bug-eye goggles and the baggy shorts. Terrible dive. Terrible 50. It was so slow the middle was excised from the video. Enough swimming, bro. Let's clean and press the world's lightest dumbbells, while wearing goggles. Rowing machine, while wearing goggles. Another terrible dive. End of video. I presume he drowned. We need a "LIKE" button here. :lmao:

RE: CrossFit Endurance

Former Member — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:02:07 GMT

That just sounds like swim specific drylands to me, not CrossFit. CrossFit doesn't have a monopoly on basic exercises like burpees or squats or jumps. That's what I meant when I wrote that I do exercises CrossFit also does. It's not like CrossFit invented doing pushups, squats, pullups etc. CrossFit or Seizure? - YouTube :D Here's another "CrossFit Endurance" vid about Tababta Swimming: CrossFit - "Tabata Swimming" with Chris Michelmore and Brian Nabeta - YouTube I've been doing this exercise for years(except I swim fast). Just because CrossFit does it, it doesn't mean it's CrossFit.

RE: CrossFit Endurance

__steve__ — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 09:47:16 GMT

Cro$$fit doe$ have $ome promi$e

RE: CrossFit Endurance

Former Member — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 08:34:12 GMT

What would happen if a Crossfit coach and a TI coach got inthe room at the same time? Wow, I can only imagine... Worlds Collide! "If Relationship George walks through that door, he will kill Independent George! A George divided against itself, cannot stand!" - George Costanza

RE: CrossFit Endurance

Former Member — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 07:56:46 GMT

But the more I learn about it the more I trust the science behind it. What science?

RE: CrossFit Endurance

Former Member — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 07:50:19 GMT

What do you mean by this? YOur 29 year old body should forgive MORE, not less than your 18. Chances are you are sleeping less, spending time behind a desk, consuming more alchohol and basically living the typical life of a 29 years old. But don't think that your "best days" are behind you. That is simply not the case. I just mean that (according my swim coach, same guy that I had in HS) my form is actually a little better than it was back then but I used to be able to swim MANY more yards without issue. Now my ribs can't take whatever I'm doing wrong and I'm not swimming nearly as much. I actually am sleeping much more and eating better than I did back then too. You've got me, for sure, on the behind a desk guess but even the alcohol consumption is lightyears from what it used to be. I certainly didn't mean to imply that my best days are behind me, just that I need to be more careful while trying to get to them. Trust me, that's what I'm after :)

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Former Member — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 07:39:17 GMT

But apparently my form isn't great and my 29 year old body isn't nearly as forgiving as my 18 year old one was. What do you mean by this? YOur 29 year old body should forgive MORE, not less than your 18. Chances are you are sleeping less, spending time behind a desk, consuming more alchohol and basically living the typical life of a 29 years old. But don't think that your "best days" are behind you. That is simply not the case. What would happen if a Crossfit coach and a TI coach got inthe room at the same time? Wow, I can only imagine...

RE: CrossFit Endurance

Former Member — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 05:21:30 GMT

I have never tried CrossFit; however, IT is the new big thing in my line of work. My partners swear by it! And while it can keep my ADD partners entertained for more then a week, there seems to be a lot of controversy surrounding it. This is the article I read on Yahoo last month that warned about possible injuries due to poor form: health.yahoo.net/.../inside-cult-crossfit While any type of exercise (when done properly) is beneficial, for the purposes of swimming I have to agree with the other posters on here swimming is the best thing to do.

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Former Member — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 05:19:36 GMT

RE: CrossFit Endurance

The Fortress — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 04:37:29 GMT

In fact, I think it is probably detrimental if you're a distance swimmer. I don't think I could recover properly between workouts and have good practices if I was doing CF every day. I suspect you distance swimmers could tolerate it better than us sprinters! No way could I swim fast/AFAP efforts doing a WOD every day. And if you can't swim fast in practice because you're broken down ... Cross training is a tricky endeavor. Every time I cut something out (running, bikram, upper body lifting), I swim faster in practice and at meets. This is not to say I don't think drylands aren't important. I do, and I feel I have a good base of dryland strength after some years of it. It's simply difficult to assess what the perfect mix of swimming and dryland training is for you given your age, focus events and current level of fitness. Full time CrossFit, however, is unlikely to be the answer.

RE: CrossFit Endurance

Allen Stark — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 01:42:43 GMT

Almost anything that gets people active is better than sedentary.This one size fits all approach without recovery time is going to do a better job with aerobic fitness than with strength or power.The article quotes an adherent giving the extreme example of 4 min miler and power lifter.How about someone who does high intensity 3 days and longer slow stuff 2.They should get better results than trying to do it all at once.