First swim meet

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Allen Stark — Thu, 19 Apr 2012 12:02:15 GMT

I realized that my 200 IM was posted to Youtube as my 50 fly, so I've reposted my IM. Zones 200 IM - YouTube Re: your BR-I don't know how short of breath you were ,but you are very short on the pullout.Assuming you have the breath for it you could go much farther before the pull down and then before the kick recovery.Give it a try in workout to pushoff,count to 3,pulldown,count to 2 and kick.Also there is a big problem with your right foot in your kick.You are leading with the top of the foot instead of the instep and that is actually something that can get you DQd.Interestingly the left foot is OK.That is something you really need to work on.Good luck.

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Former Member — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:13:33 GMT

If you look closely you will see he does not have his fingers forced tightly together. I think they were doing an S-pull, you trying to confuse me George?:). That was pretty funny, I'll try it!

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Former Member — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:59:37 GMT

Here are some dryland moves you could incorporate to improve your stroke.Bobby Freeman - C'Mon And Swim (1964) - YouTube

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taruky — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:34:39 GMT

If you look closely you will see he does not have his fingers forced tightly together. Yes I believe he was getting more hand surface area that way. The other thnh o noticed was good rotation on the back stroke.

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taruky — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:10:15 GMT

Here are some dryland moves you could incorporate to improve your stroke.Bobby Freeman - C'Mon And Swim (1964) - YouTube I think they were doing an S-pull, you trying to confuse me George?:). That was pretty funny, I'll try it!

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taruky — Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:08:02 GMT

I realized that my 200 IM was posted to Youtube as my 50 fly, so I've reposted my IM. Zones 200 IM - YouTube

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swimshark — Sun, 15 Apr 2012 06:13:53 GMT

Yeah right, lol. I don't think the lifeguards want to have to drag my bum out of the pool. Some of them could use some exercise. But I bet you'd find it a fun event, once...

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Former Member — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:37:15 GMT

The 50 Fly looked not too bad. On the dive your right foot, your toes pointing out to the right. I prefer to see the toes slightly pointing in. You cannot get a proper push off when toes are pointing out. There is about a .5 sec loss in time. Also the breakout from your dive and turn you had major water turbulance. If you look you can see lots of turbulance following you.

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taruky — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 09:04:10 GMT

We need to work on your starts. The video cut off but the *** part of the 200IM looked great. Same with your 50 fly. You had some good swims today. Now if only you were coming back tomorrow for the 400 IM :bolt: Yeah right, lol. I don't think the lifeguards want to have to drag my bum out of the pool.

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swimshark — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 08:38:01 GMT

So got some Zones results and video. Unfortunately my wife was late arriving and missed taping my 100 free, but I got 1:04.91, dropping 0.18 sec. I flubbed my 2nd flip turn and ended up pushing off way deep, so lost a good 1-2 sec trying to get back to the surface:shakes head: But honestly my short term goal is to break a minute, so I guess 1:03 doesn't look that much better. I need to keep working on maintaining technique while stroking fast and hard. I could feel the technique falling apart as I went really hard. Here is my 200 IM, got 3:01.80. I'm the guy with the orange cap. Paced myself a whole lot on my fly (maybe too much?), back and *** are still atrociously slow. George, I had been looking down when breathing and shooting lower in practice but totally forgot those things in this race. :shakes head: Zones 200 IM - YouTube Here is my 50 fly. 32.28, dropped 3.06 sec. A lot of work yet to do, but I'm tickled pink. Zones 50 Fly - YouTube We need to work on your starts. The video cut off but the *** part of the 200IM looked great. Same with your 50 fly. You had some good swims today. Now if only you were coming back tomorrow for the 400 IM :bolt:

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taruky — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 07:33:41 GMT

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Former Member — Wed, 07 Mar 2012 15:52:31 GMT

I prefer a higher elbow, it looks to me as if your right arm slaps the water similar to the way your arms slaps in the fly. This ocurred during you 50 free and your last 50 in the 100. Thanks George, will do. I really value your input. BTW, what is my right arm doing on entry and how should I improve it?

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Former Member — Wed, 07 Mar 2012 14:32:30 GMT

Underwater video is fine, I would like to see it. Work at what happens on the top also. Dives and turns very important. A second or two here and there and you will surprise yourself. Work on entry of your right arm in the freestyle. Cean up your arm entry on the fly. It seems to me you are pushing water in the wrong direction as your arms are slamming into the water. I really liked the potential of your strokes - a few corrections will mean lots of time gained.

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swimshark — Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:05:14 GMT

As a noob, I have no idea what that is, lol. But my appetite is wet now for more meets, so give me the details. If people don't mind I would like to take more underwater footage of myself for analysis, all strokes. My goal is to qualify for a national USMS meet in the next couple years. In a few years, you will be coming to this meet with your son. Jr Champs is a USA-S meet (so you'd have to join USA-S) where you just have to swim "no faster than". What about Albatross, are you going to that one?

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taruky — Wed, 07 Mar 2012 10:03:10 GMT

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swimshark — Wed, 07 Mar 2012 09:22:15 GMT

When and where is that? I may jus do the Zones meet as I'm actually off that weekend. I saw the times from last year, pretty much all strong swimmers. It will be a good lesson in humility for me, lol. Jr/Sr Champs are usually at UMD around mid-July. They are LCM and a great way to get more LC meets in. I hope to see you at zones.

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taruky — Wed, 07 Mar 2012 09:18:04 GMT

Do you want one of your events to count for USA-S? Come to Jr Champs this summer and swim with me! :) As a noob, I have no idea what that is, lol. But my appetite is wet now for more meets, so give me the details. If people don't mind I would like to take more underwater footage of myself for analysis, all strokes. My goal is to qualify for a national USMS meet in the next couple years.

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Former Member — Wed, 07 Mar 2012 08:36:09 GMT

Just remember that it is just a race, and that you will have many more. As a lifelong competitive swimmer, I have learned that if you are nervous it will only affect you negatively. Do not really focus on what is coming up, you have already put all the work in, now you just need to perform. If you have been practicing well, it will pay off. Do not get discouraged if you do no do well, it happens to many swimmers when they are in season. Wait until you rest, you will drop loads of time. The most important thing is to just stay calm and do what you know how to do. :)

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swimshark — Wed, 07 Mar 2012 07:17:31 GMT

Thank you. Yeah, I just realized that US Swimming might not track USMS events. The USMS site is fine, but I like the point and letter system they have on US swimming. Do you want one of your events to count for USA-S? Come to Jr Champs this summer and swim with me! :)

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taruky — Wed, 07 Mar 2012 01:14:16 GMT

In a few years, you will be coming to this meet with your son. Jr Champs is a USA-S meet (so you'd have to join USA-S) where you just have to swim "no faster than". What about Albatross, are you going to that one? When and where is that? I may jus do the Zones meet as I'm actually off that weekend. I saw the times from last year, pretty much all strong swimmers. It will be a good lesson in humility for me, lol.

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swimshark — Tue, 06 Mar 2012 07:39:57 GMT

Don't know much about it. Is that a regional meet? Do you have to qualify? You don't have to qualify and it's at George Mason. It's so close that you are expected to be there! :bolt: And I bet you will easily beat your 100 IM time. Remember that rotation in the back. As for the back being the most important, I don't agree. My back is my weakest stroke, hands down. Yet I do fairly well in the 400 IM. I hand in there with the fly, lose some ground with back and catch up in *** to bring it home with the free.

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taruky — Tue, 06 Mar 2012 06:06:16 GMT

Good swimming! You can watch this page to see what meets have been recently added to the results database. Thank you. Yeah, I just realized that US Swimming might not track USMS events. The USMS site is fine, but I like the point and letter system they have on US swimming.

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That Guy — Tue, 06 Mar 2012 04:45:59 GMT

Thank you, I see what you mean by the shoot going out of the water. I'll be careful about that. And I should be looking down on my breaths, I often forget. Incidentally, I was wondering...do these meet results show up on the US Swimming web site? I was hoping it would be a nice organizer for me to track my progress, like it is for my kids. Or are only certain meets, like zones, US swimming sanctioned? Or maybe I need to join US Swimming? Good swimming! You can watch this page to see what meets have been recently added to the results database.

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no200fly — Tue, 06 Mar 2012 03:56:02 GMT

Incidentally, I was wondering...do these meet results show up on the US Swimming web site? I was hoping it would be a nice organizer for me to track my progress, like it is for my kids. Or are only certain meets, like zones, US swimming sanctioned? Or maybe I need to join US Swimming? When the meet director sends them in. Shouldn't be too long.

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taruky — Tue, 06 Mar 2012 03:30:33 GMT

You didn't ask about BR but here goes anyway. On the BK to BR turn come off on your side and don't bother to turn facing forward first. Unless you were really running out of breathe you were way too fast on your pullout.Count at least to 2(to 3 if you can) before the pulldown and then at least to 2 before the kick. Your pull and kick were pretty good. You were looking too much forward instead of down. On the recovery concentrate on shooting your hands straight forward.You are shooting them up to get your hands out of the water.Getting your hands out of the water on the recovery is only a good idea if you are riding high enough at the time that you can have them out of the water while shooting them straight forward.This upward movement slows your flow into the recovery. You BR has real potential though. Thank you, I see what you mean by the shoot going out of the water. I'll be careful about that. And I should be looking down on my breaths, I often forget. Incidentally, I was wondering...do these meet results show up on the US Swimming web site? I was hoping it would be a nice organizer for me to track my progress, like it is for my kids. Or are only certain meets, like zones, US swimming sanctioned? Or maybe I need to join US Swimming?