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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="https://community.usms.org/cfs-file/__key/system/syndication/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Swimming Breaststroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/swimming/f/general/10445/swimming-breaststroke</link><description>Is it faster to swim breaststroke with your head above the water during the glide or just below the surface of the water during the glide?</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>Telligent Community 12</generator><item><title>RE: Swimming Breaststroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/173032?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 08:15:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:ea5b897b-7876-4b29-82fe-321a025b1c18</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>definitely below the water. In addition to keeping your hips us as was already mentioned, think of regular speed boat with a huge wave around its bow when going through the water (head out of the water) and a very smooth submarine under the surface of the water (head in the water). Which do you think has less drag?&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Breaststroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/173100?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 06:30:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:66e1eaf1-bec4-4e12-b0f9-60cf14c2b96b</guid><dc:creator>Debugger</dc:creator><description>definitely below the water. In addition to keeping your hips us as was already mentioned, think of regular speed boat with a huge wave around its bow when going through the water (head out of the water) and a very smooth submarine under the surface of the water (head in the water). Which do you think has less drag?
Perhaps it&amp;#39;s not the best comparison since the submarine goes all the time under water. Imagine if it had to appear on the surface every second (or imagine submarine swimming 50 breaststroke all out according to the rules :D ). That&amp;#39;s right when you go each cycle under water you make more up and down movement which is very costly if you swim 50 ***. Sure you have benefit when you swim 100 - 200 event because glide phase is a longer in that case. For 50 you want lay high on the water as a speed boat. Look at the guy on the video Vladislav Bragin WR 28.47 50m br LCM Age 38 Nordic Masters 20091024      - YouTube I&amp;#39;m not sure he could keep his tempo so high if he had hidden his head underwater. Let me repeat, IMO it makes sense for 50 events only.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Breaststroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/172867?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:43:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:2bc64343-d9c1-458d-bae8-dd60a62baece</guid><dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator><description>Even in a sprint, the head-down true streamline position is the superior position.  When you breathe, you should try to keep your head low and not cocked back.  In fact, while you must surface your head every cycle, you don&amp;#39;t actually need to take a breath every cycle.  Surfacing your head but skipping a breath in between stroke cycles will help you to avoid the need to **** your head back for a big breath.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Breaststroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/172995?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 12:59:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:6c93e784-4356-4aed-968b-b70bfe4d91dc</guid><dc:creator>knelson</dc:creator><description>Another important aspect is to not bob your head. Some swimmers lift their head to breathe and then drop it back down during the recovery. You want to maintain all your momentum in a forward direction and lifting your head destroys some of this momentum.

Check out this slow-mo footage of Rebecca Soni&amp;#39;s stroke as an example:
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She does lift her head a little, but she always keeps her chin tucked and her eyes looking toward the water rather than at the far end of the pool.

One tip I&amp;#39;ve heard is to fix your eyes at the position your hands are at when you begin the pull and that&amp;#39;s where you should keep your head.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Breaststroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/172968?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 12:20:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:20e96bcc-66ff-4523-b3b6-74b24ae7af51</guid><dc:creator>ande</dc:creator><description>Is it faster to swim breaststroke with your head above the water during the glide or just below the surface of the water during the glide?

I&amp;#39;ve written about this a lot in Swim Faster Faster plus I&amp;#39;m sure folks have talked a lot about this in The Breastroke Lane

when swimming breastroke, just before you finish each kick, &amp;amp; a few moments after, you want your: 
+ Upper body to be streamlined &amp;amp; 
+ Head to be neutral looking down out the bottom

This concept is called RIDE THE GLIDE. 
If you do it right &amp;amp; you&amp;#39;ll increase your DPS &amp;amp; decrease your SPL

watch &amp;amp; copy Kitajima underwater

Notice how fast and powerful his pull &amp;amp; kick are, 
Notice his timing, 
Notice his glide &amp;amp; head position. 

Watch a frog swim, he&amp;#39;s actions and timing are: 
streamline, kick, glide
REPEAT&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Breaststroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/172943?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 12:01:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:043c96f9-4d60-4225-90f1-4c54ba33faa5</guid><dc:creator>Allen Stark</dc:creator><description>What about swimming sprint when you almost have no glide phase and you start the pull as soon as your finish your kick? I noticed that if I hide my head in such case it takes too much effort to lift myself. 
Nevertheless I saw both types of sprinters
1. Hiding head
Van Der Burgh breaks his 50m World Record - from Universal Sports      - YouTube

2. Both hiding and not hiding head depending if glide phase is present
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I think it is always faster to keep your head down.That second video is interesting as they are going evidently fast with head relatively up.I suspect they would go even faster with better streamlining.In my age group Robert Wright swims old school head up flat BR and he is really fast.I have examined his stroke extensively to see why and my supposition is that he is able to ride very high in the water which deceases drag.His hips are up at all times.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Breaststroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/172854?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 11:16:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:74289ec1-32af-4ae2-8c16-a0df8a152d65</guid><dc:creator>Debugger</dc:creator><description>Head down in the glide! Why? Head down, hips up. Your goal is to streamline through the glide, where you can gain speed and save energy, as long as you do not prolong the glide. When you keep your head up, your hips drop and then you are creating resistance by exposing too much of your body to the water. So keep that head down between your arms as you drive your body forward with your kick.
What about swimming sprint when you almost have no glide phase and you start the pull as soon as your finish your kick? I noticed that if I hide my head in such case it takes too much effort to lift myself. 
Nevertheless I saw both types of sprinters
1. Hiding head
Van Der Burgh breaks his 50m World Record - from Universal Sports      - YouTube

2. Both hiding and not hiding head depending if glide phase is present
Ð¢ÐµÑ…Ð½Ð¸ÐºÐ° Ð¿Ð»Ð°Ð²Ð°Ð½Ð¸Ñ Ð±Ñ€Ð°ÑÑÐ¾Ð¼      - YouTube&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Breaststroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/172845?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 08:04:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:967a253c-eb5b-4d0d-8a2e-9159cf1dd006</guid><dc:creator>Cokie</dc:creator><description>Head down in the glide! Why? Head down, hips up. Your goal is to streamline through the glide, where you can gain speed and save energy, as long as you do not prolong the glide. When you keep your head up, your hips drop and then you are creating resistance by exposing too much of your body to the water. So keep that head down between your arms as you drive your body forward with your kick.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>RE: Swimming Breaststroke</title><link>https://community.usms.org/thread/173015?ContentTypeID=1</link><pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 01:56:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:0bc945f6-c9f7-454a-9830-6874e40851aa</guid><dc:creator>Debugger</dc:creator><description>I&amp;#39;ve written about this a lot in Swim Faster Faster plus I&amp;#39;m sure folks have talked a lot about this in The Breastroke Lane

when swimming breastroke, just before you finish each kick, &amp;amp; a few moments after, you want your: 
+ Upper body to be streamlined &amp;amp; 
+ Head to be neutral looking down out the bottom

This concept is called RIDE THE GLIDE. 
If you do it right &amp;amp; you&amp;#39;ll increase your DPS &amp;amp; decrease your SPL

watch &amp;amp; copy Kitajima underwater

Notice how fast and powerful his pull &amp;amp; kick are, 
Notice his timing, 
Notice his glide &amp;amp; head position. 

Watch a frog swim, he&amp;#39;s actions and timing are: 
streamline, kick, glide
REPEAT
Yeah, Kitajima is great but I never saw him swimming 50m ***. IMO his technique is not for this event.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>