Lance Armstrong

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Former Member — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:06:21 GMT

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Former Member — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:11:28 GMT

Read an interesting blog entry about when Lance joined the Calgary masters for a workout when he was in town. His pace times are incredible ! teamtimex.timexblogs.com/.../

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Former Member — Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:43:21 GMT

Further research shows that slow twitch types are bipolar. While engaged in marathon endurance workouts, their serotonin and dopamine levels spike, leaving them in a state of near euphoria where they embrace pain, brag about pain, and write poetry about pain. But once their extended crowing further depletes their glycogen levels, they crash, reaching for the ever present Advil bottle and bitterly complaining about the laziness and vileness of those who avoid overtraining and garbage yards. Random gibberish Wall hangers endless complaints Distance, pure and true You guys make me laugh!

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That Guy — Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:23:35 GMT

Is it five seven five or seven five seven? This haiku sucks

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__steve__ — Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:29:57 GMT

Is it five seven five or seven five seven? This haiku sucks No, this haiku really sucks Yours has six of em WTF, I just made one

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Former Member — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:58:17 GMT

I daresay Lance would be 100x more welcome in the swimming community than the triathlete community. I don't know why, but I get the feeling triathletes don't want him to 'invade their sport' (even though he used to compete in triathlons before getting into serious cycling. However, I tend to think the masters swimming community would absolutely love for him to join us and would be happy to see him succeed in the pool. Hopefully he is serious about our Spring Nationals in Greensboro. And if so, somebody please make sure he enters the meet prior to the deadline! Jeff I think you need to seperate the way pros feel vs. the way your average triathlete feels. When Dara Tores came back, quite a few elite females complained loudly and publicly about losing "their" spot to someone who already had their turn. I am equally sure that there are a few pros triathletes who feel the same way. But your average triathlete is glad Lance is back in the sport, other than those who think ( not without reason ) that Lance was a cheat. And I am sure you can find plenty of those folks on the pool deck too. Triathletes do whine a lot. And post their workouts on facebook too often. But they do work harder - way harder - than swimmers (and get divorced because they become too obsessed about it).

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Former Member — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:29:45 GMT

Do you guys mean sprinters in swimming? Are they particularly whiny? :D Recent research indicates fast twitch muscle fibers have a direct neural connection to the part of the brain that initiates verbal complaints. In a process similar to Tourette's Syndrome, higher percentage of fast twitch fibers leads directly to involuntary spasms of whining.

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Former Member — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:10:50 GMT

Triathletes like to whine in general, similar to sprinters. that being said, they do like to whinge. They aren't quite like (shudder) sprinters, though. Do you guys mean sprinters in swimming? Are they particularly whiny? :D

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Former Member — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:04:00 GMT

I just briefly perused the Top 13 Reasons hyperlinked above, and stopped when I got to #7. Ridiculous. 7. MINUS – Perception for those that race on the Big Island is that must pay some dues. Race a few times and gain some appreciation on what others have done to get to the top spot. If Armstrong races and wins the first time he tries, what’s the perception in the sport? Did he pay his dues? Does anyone care?

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Former Member — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:45:44 GMT

Triathletes like to whine in general, similar to sprinters. I do some open water training with triathletes. They are great people, incredibly welcoming and supportive. That being said, they do like to whinge. They aren't quite like (shudder) sprinters, though. If I were 1st and Lance was second, I'd be disappointed if he didn't shake my hand, congratulate me, sing my praises to the world, buy me a car, and set me up with his ex-girlfriend. But was Lance in a tiff over being beat? When people finish a triathlon, sometimes they are thinking about things like breathing, stretching out muscle cramps, and whether they finally pushed the old ticker too far this time. Social niceties are farther down the list of priorities. The newspapers like stories, though.

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Former Member — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:14:30 GMT

Random gibberish Wall hangers endless complaints Distance, pure and true :chug: Nice haiku. F*** distance though. I think it would be very entertaining to watch Lance compete in an Ironman, and I hope he makes it to Kona. I have no doubt whatsoever that if that happens, he will get his ass kicked by Craig Alexander.

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Former Member — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:14:02 GMT

Triathletes like to whine in general, similar to sprinters. Except when they're showing off their expensive gear:D It's interesting how cyclists and swimmers both regard tri-geeks in the same manner. Never was a runner, is it the same for them? I often have the feeling that triathletes make more of a life style out of their sport than swimmers, cyclists or runners do. Oh good grief. Maybe there are some people out there who started out as triathletes from a very young age, but every triathlete I know came to it from another sport, often running (but swimming and cycling also). Actually my impression is that many triathletes are usually people who didn't do any sports at all, got fat and lazy and then decided to do pick up running in their mid/late-Thirties to lose some weight. They do one marathon, get over-enthusiastic and then decide to pick up triathlon. Then they make a big deal about "their" sport and how much they workout. Btw, there is also a top 13 reasons why Lance Armstrong is good & bad for the sport of triathlon article: www.everymantri.com/.../the-top-13-reasons-why-lance-armstrong-is-good-bad-for-the-sport-of-triathlon.html

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Former Member — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:05:25 GMT

I don't know why, but I get the feeling triathletes don't want him to 'invade their sport' (even though he used to compete in triathlons before getting into serious cycling. My words. One guy wrote "I don't get why retired cyclists have to invade our sport". I replied that "Armstrong was the number one ranked triathlete in the 19-and-under group"(source Wiki) and basically started out in triathlons way before many triathletes knew what a triathlon is. I also don't accept the whining that Armstrong has an "unfair" advantage that he has the cash to concentrate on his training and get the best trainers, equipment and whatever which other athletes don't. This is the disadvantage all athletes in poor countries have all the time. I used to swim in Bolivia in the pool where Bolivia's National swimmers did their daily training. The talented swimmers in Bolivia don't get the same support a swimmer like Phelps or Biedermann would get in the US or Germany so they have the exact same disadvantage which is why athletes from Bolivia(or other poor countries) hardly have a chance at the Olympics. I don't hear anyone complaining about that.

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Former Member — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:46:20 GMT

I have a friend who is a bike racing fan. He's convinced Lance doped all through his TdF days. My tendency leans that way as well. He was quite disappointed that the Justice Dept. closed their investigation. I don't think that view is all that unusual in the cycling community. Given the continued suspicion, I don't find it all that odd that the tri community would be divided on what Lance brings to the sport. Yeah, that sort of sums up why the poll is divided.

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Chris Stevenson — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:46:59 GMT

One guy wrote "I don't get why retired cyclists have to invade our sport." Oh good grief. Maybe there are some people out there who started out as triathletes from a very young age, but every triathlete I know came to it from another sport, often running (but swimming and cycling also). HOWEVER, there are plenty of swimmers who complain about triathletes invading "our" sport. Usually it isn't because they are fast but because there can be a lot of them, and their interests in practice can be narrow (eg, long freestyle sets).

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__steve__ — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:36:34 GMT

It's interesting how cyclists and swimmers both regard tri-geeks in the same manner. Never was a runner, is it the same for them?

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funkyfish — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:59:15 GMT

I think you need to seperate the way pros feel vs. the way your average triathlete feels. When Dara Tores came back, quite a few elite females complained loudly and publicly about losing "their" spot to someone who already had their turn. I am equally sure that there are a few pros triathletes who feel the same way. How is it that anyone has "already had their turn?" This is an incredibly silly point of view. If you're getting beat by a former Olympian, who decades later decides to compete again, then get over it and channel the sour grapes energy into training harder, or smarter, or figuring out how to improve your own performance so you don't get beat. It boils down to it's not Dara's fault that the other elite females didn't beat her, it's theirs. :rantonoff: Sorry, but that victim mentality doesn't sit very well with me, don't take it from my students, my kids, and especially from myself (and I've tried it numerous times on myself) :santa3: random Santa smilie…ooohhhh…yyeeaaahhhhh.

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jroddin — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:29:13 GMT

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Former Member — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:19:15 GMT

One thing I have noticed about triathletes is they don't seem to work very hard in the pool or running. I don't see them huffing and puffing in between repeats. They seem to be putting in yardage or miles focused on survival, not intensity. My training is geared towards open water "I-did-athons" where I can't lose sight of my primary goal ("Don't drown.") and bicycle trips. Distance takes priority for both of these. Triathletes also are focused on finishing. After coming in, say 63rd, in a half-Ironman , the next logical step is finishing an Ironman, not placing in a half. They are more like mountain climbers than racers. Aside: "Half-Ironman"??? What's the other half?

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Former Member — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 07:43:10 GMT

Just speaking from my own experience: a hard swim workout and I need a nap. A hard brick workout (swim/bike or bike/run) and I have to go to bed at 9. I do agree that some of the pacing you see from triathletes is, well, slow. But a 4 hour workout where you burned thourgh all your glycogen stores and have to rely on food to keep moving, well, there is nothing easy about that no matter how slowly you go.

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Former Member — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 06:47:56 GMT

Triathletes do whine a lot. And post their workouts on facebook too often. But they do work harder - way harder - than swimmers (and get divorced because they become too obsessed about it). As pwb already mentioned, triathletes spend more time training, but that is not necessarily harder. What really separates triathlon training is the obscene amount of time they have to spend biking if they want to prepare adequately. One thing I have noticed about triathletes is they don't seem to work very hard in the pool or running. I don't see them huffing and puffing in between repeats. They seem to be putting in yardage or miles focused on survival, not intensity.

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aquageek — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 05:16:21 GMT

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Rob Copeland — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 05:14:59 GMT

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Elaine Krugman — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 05:03:46 GMT