Legal relay exchange?

RE: Legal relay exchange?

Former Member — Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:15:25 GMT

So the "coach" says it's ok to run on deck??? What to do, when your coach says "Do it," and your Mom says, "Don't, --- well we all know the answer to that one.

RE: Legal relay exchange?

orca1946 — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 05:26:57 GMT

So the "coach" says it's ok to run on deck???

RE: Legal relay exchange?

Former Member — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:59:18 GMT

It doesn't sound legal. Starting swimmer is supposed to have one foot at the front of the block/deck or have a hand/foot on the wall and be stationary. A running start would be very unsafe, too many people behind the blocks with relay teammates, timers, officials, runners. Some pools have the timing system cables exposed or have a raised lip at pool edge.

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knelson — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:42:04 GMT

It doesn't sound legal. I know it doesn't, but I'm not sure it's not. I can't find anything specifically in the rule book that disallows it. Here's the only rule I see mentioning relay starts: The team of a swimmer whose feet have lost contact with the starting platform (ground, deck or wall) before the preceding teammate touches the wall shall be disqualified. It doesn't say anything about how that start must be performed. It does say you can start from the deck, so why can't you do a running start?

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Former Member — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:34:09 GMT

We did 15 minute relays with running starts at Clovis North a few times. 5 people per team and it's a never ending relay until coach says stop. You get tired having to climb out, back up, sprint on deck to a flying start then sprint a 25, but doing it every minute or so for 15 minutes.

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Michael Heather — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:01:53 GMT

In NCAA it is legal to do a walking start, but you still have to be on the block.

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orca1946 — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:26:53 GMT

If it were at all legal someone in the Olympics would have given it a go!

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jaadams1 — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:47:07 GMT

That sounds like fun. Just don't mistime it and land on the guy in the water! With the right pool setup doing a start from the diving board might be fun, too. Bonus points for the 3 meter board. I've done "racing dives" from the 1 meter springboard playing around while I was working at the college pool years ago. Takes a lot of practice to get the timing right to get the right linear distance and angle though. A lot of the time you'll end up over rotating though, and this can be painful :bitching:

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knelson — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:43:34 GMT

We do of course set out the long non-slip mats prior to our running starts at the Alumni Meet... That sounds like fun. Just don't mistime it and land on the guy in the water! With the right pool setup doing a start from the diving board might be fun, too. Bonus points for the 3 meter board.

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jaadams1 — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:33:29 GMT

Yeah, I took my three-year-old grandson to his swim lesson yesterday. The key point I made with him was never, ever, ever run on the pool deck. Allowing it in competition will spoil any respect he has for his grandpa. :cane: "Look, Grandpa. The big kids run on the pool deck!" :D S We do of course set out the long non-slip mats prior to our running starts at the Alumni Meet... and I tell my kids as well, "no running on the pool deck" when we go to swim lessons.

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smontanaro — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:05:53 GMT

I've heard of running-start relays in swimming but I've never actually seen it happen. I think anyone who is considering it should clear it with the referee and the lifeguard before doing it. At some facilities, there is simply no way to do this safely. Yeah, I took my three-year-old grandson to his swim lesson yesterday. The key point I made with him was never, ever, ever run on the pool deck. Allowing it in competition will spoil any respect he has for his grandpa. :cane: "Look, Grandpa. The big kids run on the pool deck!" :D S

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That Guy — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:58:36 GMT

This is certainly the rule they would use to DQ you for attempting a running start: I've heard of running-start relays in swimming but I've never actually seen it happen. I think anyone who is considering it should clear it with the referee and the lifeguard before doing it. At some facilities, there is simply no way to do this safely.

RE: Legal relay exchange?

knelson — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:41:53 GMT

This is certainly the rule they would use to DQ you for attempting a running start: 102.15.3 Any swimmer who acts in an unsportsmanlike or unsafe manner within the swimming venue may be considered for appropriate action or penalty by the referee.

RE: Legal relay exchange?

jaadams1 — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:30:51 GMT

It doesn't say anything about how that start must be performed. It does say you can start from the deck, so why can't you do a running start? I think we're on to something here. We do this all the time anyway in the college Alumni Meets anyway. It adds a little fun too!!