https://community.usms.org/events/USMS event information, management, and officiatingen-USTelligent Community 12https://community.usms.org/events/f/usms-national-championship-international-events/33258/2026-summer-nationals-event-cap/299446Thu, 20 Aug 2026 15:37:00 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:bf4ddf48-384e-4a1a-9a9f-781b2edde1f6Rog HardyThx Kurt! Then I guess I can conclude we're only dealing with a LCM summer issue here. ☺ ️https://community.usms.org/events/f/usms-national-championship-international-events/33258/2026-summer-nationals-event-cap/299445Thu, 20 Aug 2026 12:36:00 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:f5e48fe9-6476-4e80-815c-7f26862074c1Kurt DicksonIrvine will not be deja vu. It's short course and while I would suspect a big turnout, it will have two pools to run. Very few places with two long course pools.https://community.usms.org/events/f/usms-national-championship-international-events/33258/2026-summer-nationals-event-cap/299443Wed, 19 Aug 2026 16:00:00 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:9e529033-deef-4aac-ba1a-04a8ee11c3c5Rog HardyErin, the Summer Nationals is a wrap! I competed and watched from start to finish, and thought it was very well run at a beautiful facility. Appreciations as always to you and all the dedicated people who sacrifice a lot of time before and during to make these events possible. There was some controversy and frustration before the meet however, well documented on this thread. After competing, watching and communicating I have some constructive recommendations for modifications for how 200 and over event caps (if needed) and a related issue, seeding, are handled. I plan to post them on a new thread I created, "USMS National Pool Championship Endurance Event Caps and Seeding - suggestions for improvement", and email them to the championship committee in the near future. Before I do, however, I would like to learn what perspectives others might have and what if any changes the championship committee are considering. There has been no new post on this thread since the meet. Is event caps at Nationals no longer an issue? Because of location it might it be Deja Vu all over again for Irvine this Spring. Also, time is a bit of the essence as the USMS annual meeting is September 18 to 19. I’ll hone my thoughts a little while longer while I wait to see if any other perspectives come in. Here is my email if you want to contact me directly, rogershardy@gmail.com , but I think this is a great forum. Finally, USMS has posted a meet survey at https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/97DXC85 . I’ll take my survey after hearing from anyone who wishes to post on this thread or email me.https://community.usms.org/events/f/usms-national-championship-international-events/33264/usms-national-pool-championship-endurance-event-caps-and-seeding---suggestions-for-improvementWed, 19 Aug 2026 15:56:00 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:7b97c73e-ea88-462c-b42c-c369f154cefbRog HardyThe Summer Nationals meet is a wrap! I competed and watched from start to finish, and thought it was very well run at a beautiful facility. Appreciations as always to the dedicated people who sacrifice a lot of time before and during to make these events possible. There was some controversy and frustration before the meet however, well documented on the 2026 Summer Nationals event cap thread. After competing, watching and communicating I have some constructive recommendations for modifications for how 200 and over event caps (if needed) and a related issue, seeding, are handled. I plan to post them on this thread and email them to the championship committee in the near future. Before I do, however, I would like to learn what perspectives others might have and what if any changes the championship committee are considering. There has been no new post since the meet. Is event caps at Nationals no longer an issue? Because of location it might it be Deja Vu all over again for Irvine next Spring. Also, time is a bit of the essence as the USMS annual meeting is September 18 to 19. I’ll hone my thoughts a little while longer while I wait to see if any other perspectives come in. Here is my email if you want to contact me directly, rogershardy@gmail.com , but I think this is a great forum. Finally, USMS has posted a meet survey at https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/97DXC85 . I’ll take my survey after hearing from anyone who wishes to post on a USMS community thread or email me.nationalsregistrationhttps://community.usms.org/events/f/pool-events/33261/hottest-nationals/299440Mon, 17 Aug 2026 15:01:00 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:2f093c35-ba01-4c57-8627-ac3f0d3c7821Elaine Krugman2011 in Mesa is why I never swam at an outdoor Nationals ever again.https://community.usms.org/events/f/pool-events/33261/hottest-nationals/299439Mon, 17 Aug 2026 00:08:00 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:efd5bccb-a819-4ed9-9e42-58d15aefd9e6Kurt DicksonArizona nationals has entered the chat. 1994 and 2003 Tempe, 2011 and 2019 Mesa. Although they were spring nationals, they were regularly over 100. ASU has air conditioning in the locker room. I recall the odd looks I received camped out in locker room. By the end of the meet, everyone was in the locker room.https://community.usms.org/events/f/pool-events/33261/hottest-nationals/299438Sat, 15 Aug 2026 19:55:00 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:5ce91229-4578-4434-b9eb-f2b8d2520d21Allen StarkYes months before the meet I had posted come to Oregon. It will be cool. Boy was I wrong. It was awful and that was the time of the black full bodysuit so people were baking on the starting blockshttps://community.usms.org/events/f/pool-events/33261/hottest-nationals/299436Thu, 13 Aug 2026 22:40:00 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:5acf851d-2400-4e20-89d6-44531cfbe518swoomerI was there…freezing and shivering until about 10:00 am with increasing temps until about 7:00 pm…then moving towards chilly again. And then… really schizophrenic temps all over again! Definitely needed my parka in the morning. It was a well-managed meet after the start. I’d do it again. I was in Mesa and Woodlands…they were all hot, but I don’t think my swimming was compromised by Sacramento temps. Maybe I’ve learned how to manage it better over time. Allen, I remember the 2008 Oregon Nationals…pretty steamy as well.https://community.usms.org/events/f/pool-events/33261/hottest-nationals/299435Sun, 09 Aug 2026 22:53:00 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:4a58405f-9bf6-46d3-9606-a6d568178be6Allen StarkThank youhttps://community.usms.org/events/f/pool-events/33261/hottest-nationals/299434Sun, 09 Aug 2026 13:24:00 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:f8835238-d51a-463e-9db9-a0b3001333efElaine KrugmanThe cool water served you well, King Frog! Congratulations, especially on your gold in the 50 breast and beating your seed times on all your races!https://community.usms.org/events/f/pool-events/33261/hottest-nationals/299433Sun, 09 Aug 2026 02:14:00 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:eed28f2f-eb9f-4e72-86d7-fc1ec81725d8Allen Starkat least the water is cool in Sacramento. Also, it’s cool in the morning. It only gets unbearable about 1 o’clock in the afternoon. I remember the Woodlands, the water temperature of the pool made it hazardous. I and another one of my teammates had to practically pull another teammate out of the water as she was clearly being a being affected by the hot water and still wanted to warm up when it was clearly dangerous for herhttps://community.usms.org/events/f/pool-events/33261/hottest-nationals/299430Fri, 07 Aug 2026 16:14:00 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:1a2449a7-5811-417d-8ee0-fac1322cbe9cGull2007 at the Woodlands was pretty damn hot. Standing behind the blocks in a full body suit waiting to swim was brutal. And the aerators couldn’t keep the water cool enough.https://community.usms.org/events/f/pool-events/33261/hottest-nationals/299428Thu, 06 Aug 2026 17:34:00 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:8f2457f9-0bed-41cb-b268-b38c8a67e038Elaine KrugmanThis is exactly the reason why I said to myself, "No way in hell am I going to Nationals!" My sister lives in Sacramento, and I get to hear her complain about the summer heat every year. I will never forget Mesa in 2011 at Spring Nationals. It was so hot, my heat intolerance caught up with me, and I had to skip my 200 breaststroke race. I was miserable, so I will never do another outdoor meet in that heat ever again. I would be curious to know if any other cities bid against Sacramento for Summer Nationals. If so, who were they, and why weren't they chosen? King Frog, good luck to you and Seal Girl! Stay well-hydrated, and stay out of the heat as much as possible! UPDATE EDIT: I learned from Ed Saltzman that there were two bids: Greensboro and Sacramento. Since Greensboro was selected for Spring Nationals, the default choice was Sacramento. Hopefully, in the future, some cooler weather locales will bid on Summer Nationals!https://community.usms.org/events/f/pool-events/33261/hottest-nationalsTue, 04 Aug 2026 23:03:00 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:e5f2f519-a80e-498f-aa5d-91ddb750acc4Allen StarkWhat is the hottest national so far. I expect that Sacramento will probably break that record. The forecast for the days of the meet is 99° 102°104°104°https://community.usms.org/events/f/usms-national-championship-international-events/33260/world-aquatics-2025-top-ten-announced/299425Mon, 03 Aug 2026 21:32:00 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:26a0c9e7-2a8f-43eb-bca5-c4feb260a6e5Britt03I have not heard of any honoring in the past for AQUA Top 10 accomplishments by USMS. Back when it was FINA, you could order a Top 10 patch off the FINA website. I have not checked if AQUA released new versions of these patches. To add: those were generic Top 10 patches without a year on it.https://community.usms.org/events/f/usms-national-championship-international-events/33260/world-aquatics-2025-top-ten-announced/299424Mon, 03 Aug 2026 16:43:00 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:4c442d16-a5e5-432d-9c2e-ef861d9242e4IrishUnfortunately WA doesn’t accept USA meet results. Also if you did your best time at a USA meet and then your next best time was at a USMS - but it is still top 10 worthy - it’s not going to show up either. :( USMS should have that fixed for next year but I understand nothing can be done for this year.https://community.usms.org/events/f/usms-national-championship-international-events/33258/2026-summer-nationals-event-cap/299423Mon, 03 Aug 2026 16:41:00 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:ab47fec2-6dd3-427d-88ed-e0a2b00282f903WKAI will add a sixth... How can USMS be allowing a 6th event for people before allowing a waitlist event which, at least in some cases, is only a second event?https://community.usms.org/events/f/pool-events/33222/usms-results-data-analysis/299421Mon, 03 Aug 2026 15:36:00 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:261fb677-d8f1-442b-b872-4202a32f089dJennifer TranI'll be swimming at the 2026 USMS Summer Nationals in Sacramento in a few days! I hope to see many of you there as well! At last year's Summer Nationals in Federal Way, I was pacing with a swimmer I thought was faster, only to learn she used her personal best overall, not her slower age group best. Many of us have experienced the opposite, swimming with someone who underestimates their seed time. I created this updated psych sheet for 2026 USMS Summer Nationals where you can see each swimmer's seed time, personal best overall, and personal best in their age group in that event (in LCM): www.tryopenlane.com/.../2026-summer-nationals You can also click on each swimmer's name and see a more in-depth USMS data profile. I hope this psych sheet helps everyone research their competitors, develop a better race strategy, and see where you actually rank (not based on seed time)! Good luck, and let me know if you have any feedback. P.S. - The heat sheet is also partially populated and will continuously update as soon as the events are seeded: www.tryopenlane.com/.../2026-summer-nationalshttps://community.usms.org/events/f/usms-national-championship-international-events/33258/2026-summer-nationals-event-cap/299420Mon, 03 Aug 2026 13:22:00 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:38fc001c-ae8c-4e25-a2e7-198f3e37433f03WKAThe way this was done is absolutely ridiculous for multiple reasons: First off, there was no cutoff given in the meet info - when someone is trying to decide whether to go to the meet, they need to be able to watch the number. Second, the number in the men's and women's athletes is not equal in the cutoff events, which is insane. Third, the number is not even a multiple of 8, so what is going on there? Fourth, it is 2 days before the meet and according to email reply, they still haven't decided on some waitlist people. How are people supposed to make travel plans? One email said they will be letting people know as they come off the waitlist, and a next email asking when they would know was not replied to. And there has been nothing about the waitlist in the email updates. Horrible communication. Fifth, this is a national championship meet. If numbers are an issue, the qualifying times should be a lot faster and should be enforced in all events. This isn't just some average meet. This is supposed to be a national championship. How do you not allow the fastest person in an event to swim when they entered the meet before the entry deadline? I question whether the USMS staff has any prior experience running meets. They should have people who have run USA Swimming Nationals in the past involved and advising, at a minimum.https://community.usms.org/events/f/usms-national-championship-international-events/33260/world-aquatics-2025-top-ten-announced/299419Mon, 03 Aug 2026 01:33:00 GMT3187ac58-ba85-4314-b79a-c45cd885e09a:1d622bc9-34b4-452e-9cb8-556d0cff1d13Jennifer TranThank you so much! Will USMS be honoring the USMS swimmers who made the World Aquatics 2025 Top Ten in any way? I created this dashboard to analyze the USA in the World Aquatics Masters Top 10 from 2021 to 2025, where you can browse data and view USMS swimmers who've accomplished the World Aquatics Masters Top 10. If anyone has feedback on how we can better recognize USMS swimmers, please let me know!