2025 Long Course - Who's Going?

RE: 2025 Long Course - Who's Going?

5BYH7 — Sun, 03 Aug 2025 08:47:57 GMT

You are welcome y to compete with people of your same gender, males. I will even cheer you up but you don't belong in women's sports. It's all about fairness. Will you feel accomplished knowing that you won because you cheated? I don't think nobody would

RE: 2025 Long Course - Who's Going?

AGZNG — Sun, 08 Jun 2025 15:17:58 GMT

Your post used the words "biological male" which intentionally misgenders women who happen to be transgender, and also said you would not swim with them at Nationals. That conveyed prejudice against transgender swimmers and came across as transphobic.

If that wasn't your intent, then I'd be glad to hear that! "Transgender female" could have been used instead of "biological male." If you're concerned about fairness in competitive sports, that's valid because it IS a complex issue. Many "debates" aren't actually debates because they're rooted in misinformation, falsehoods, and fears that needlessly vilify transgender individuals.

USMS and other sports organizations have consulted with experts on this issue and accordingly enacted policies, but there will and should always be room for change because gender-affirming healthcare is an ever-evolving field - just not at the expense of transgender individuals. They should be welcomed and supported at USMS events, not ostracized and excluded. To be clear, I do not pretend to know what the solution is. I leave that to the actual, unbiased experts.

RE: 2025 Long Course - Who's Going?

02M3K — Sun, 08 Jun 2025 09:32:54 GMT

AGZNG - Why do you immediately jump to 'transphobic' when all is asked is to be fair? This has NOTHING to to with transphobia.

RE: 2025 Long Course - Who's Going?

AGZNG — Mon, 02 Jun 2025 01:22:37 GMT

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RE: 2025 Long Course - Who's Going?

TRYM_Swimmer — Sun, 01 Jun 2025 23:38:37 GMT

Allen, do we finally meet after all these years? Bob Husson

RE: 2025 Long Course - Who's Going?

0AUS0 — Thu, 29 May 2025 18:03:48 GMT

I’m not swimming until usms gives us some resolution on the San Antonio masters meet…I’m not going to swim nationals to be categorized with a biological male.

RE: 2025 Long Course - Who's Going?

Allen Stark — Thu, 29 May 2025 01:12:39 GMT

I’ll be there

RE: 2025 Long Course - Who's Going?

TRYM_Swimmer — Wed, 28 May 2025 18:46:59 GMT

First Nationals since Greensboro (2021). First Long Course since Maryland (2014). Really looking forward to this one!