Backstroke Ledge at Nationals ?

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orca1946 — Sun, 05 Mar 2017 02:20:39 GMT

I am trying to find plastic that does not float. I need to find something solid or drill holes to allow water in.

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orca1946 — Mon, 12 Sep 2016 01:10:10 GMT

I might just try that. I'll bring it to practice for others to try. Good idea - thanx.

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Rob Copeland — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 10:50:37 GMT

Are any "used " ones for sale yet? Or is it too early ?I doubt it, but if really want one why not build it yourself? It’s a rather simple apparatus. Just a non-slip plastic wedge and a couple of straps. FR 2.10 Backstroke Ledge A backstroke ledge may be used: - The ledge may be adjustable to 4 cm above or 4 cm below the water level. - The ledge is a minimum of 65 cm in length. - The ledge must be 8 cm in height, 2 cm at the width with 10 degrees of slope

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orca1946 — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 10:33:57 GMT

Are any "used " ones for sale yet? Or is it too early ?

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orca1946 — Sat, 20 Aug 2016 12:29:50 GMT

Does anyone know the cost of one retractable ledge? Where do I look to get it? I would like too purchase one for the team to use.

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jackback — Sat, 20 Aug 2016 08:30:54 GMT

I checked on the Colorado Timing site and at $650 per lane, its a little out a my league

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jackback — Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:37:13 GMT

thanks for the rental info jroddin ... out of curiosity who was the vendor for the rental and what was the fee ? ... might be interesting for meet directors

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jroddin — Wed, 17 Aug 2016 04:31:16 GMT

thanks for the rental info jroddin ... out of curiosity who was the vendor for the rental and what was the fee ? ... might be interesting for meet directors It wasn't a vendor per se who rented them out - it was another facility in North Carolina that had them who agreed to let the Greensboro Aquatic Center borrow them for a fee.

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jroddin — Sat, 13 Aug 2016 06:40:50 GMT

Rio olympics have a ledge that must be removed by the official after each back start. Why did they not use the "retractable" ledge we used at Greensboro? The two styles each have pros and cons. There aren't many heats in the Olympics vs USMS Nationals having heats all day long (i.e. retractable units are "self service" and don't require a volunteer for each lane to move them after the start). The Greensboro facility happened to have a set of Colorado ledges (retractable style) so they rented a second set for the other course. It wouldn't have made practical/financial sense to rent two sets of the other style.

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orca1946 — Fri, 12 Aug 2016 12:23:19 GMT

Rio olympics have a ledge that must be removed by the official after each back start. Why did they not use the "retractable" ledge we used at Greensboro?

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Rob Copeland — Fri, 12 Aug 2016 01:07:59 GMT

Why did they not use the "retractable" ledge we used at Greensboro?Because Swiss Timing is an Olympic sponsor.

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orca1946 — Sat, 09 Jul 2016 12:30:35 GMT

I did not know of those. Thanx for the info.

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Allen Stark — Thu, 07 Jul 2016 07:17:29 GMT

The water would have to be low to have the foot out and still on the pad, I would think. Not with the international pads that extend well above where the gutter would be.

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orca1946 — Mon, 04 Jul 2016 07:20:50 GMT

The water would have to be low to have the foot out and still on the pad, I would think.

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knelson — Fri, 01 Jul 2016 12:22:25 GMT

They seem to work well for the swimmers at the olympic swim trials.Some have suggested that we go back to using the top of the touch pad rather than these new wedges. Any thoughts? I don't think USMS is going to diverge from FINA rules so allowing toes above the water is essentially a non-starter.

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Chris Stevenson — Fri, 01 Jul 2016 04:31:41 GMT

I don't think USMS is going to diverge from FINA rules so allowing toes above the water is essentially a non-starter. Toes are already allowed above the water; feet entirely below the surface is the old-school rule. The modern rule is that "bending the toes over the top of the touchpad is prohibited." Your toes cannot be above the lip of the gutter...but if there is no gutter at all you are okay. So if you have (gutterless) FINA touchpads you can have your entire foot out of the water if you want. At least, that's the USMS rule, I assume it is compatible with FINA.

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orca1946 — Thu, 30 Jun 2016 11:00:29 GMT

They seem to work well for the swimmers at the olympic swim trials.Some have suggested that we go back to using the top of the touch pad rather than these new wedges. Any thoughts?

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orca1946 — Sun, 08 May 2016 11:52:41 GMT

They took away our "too fast" tech suits, so I think right after they decide it's ok for track runners but not swimmers!

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orca1946 — Thu, 05 May 2016 11:53:34 GMT

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mrubacky — Thu, 05 May 2016 02:04:24 GMT

I used it for the 200 back. Easy to adjust and friendly to use at the start of a race. I tried learning how to adjust it in the diving well before the race use. If you pull it down from the center rather from the side, it pulls down level . I used it for both medley relays and the 200 back. I agree it was very easy to use and I pulled it all the way out, placed my feet where I wanted them and let it come up under my feet. It's was definitely an advantage. Now how long before FINA decides to take them away?

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Patrick W. Brundage — Wed, 13 Apr 2016 01:14:08 GMT

so stoked the backstroke ledges will be there! Thanks to whoever made that happen!

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orca1946 — Thu, 07 Apr 2016 12:19:17 GMT

I still would like to try them. Will there be any in the warm up lanes at any time?

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jackback — Thu, 07 Apr 2016 05:46:32 GMT

Here is the pertinent info from update # 1 files.ctctcdn.com/.../278b6e9b-256e-46f3-a689-e26878f643a0.jpg static.ctctcdn.com/.../S.gif Facility Information The Venue The Greensboro Aquatic Center, which opened in 2011, is one of the United States' premier indoor aquatic facilities. If you participated in the 2012 USMS Spring Championships, then you already know what a fantastic facility it is. The GAC features three pools--a 50-meter x 25-yard competition pool, a diving well, and an instructional pool. Colorado Time Systems backstroke ledges will be in use at this meet. See our Backstroke Start Device instructional video on this great feature. The ledges will be in place on Wednesday afternoon for the warm-up period for practice. The competition pool will be divided by twin bulkheads into two, 10-lane courses for the meet. The depth of the competition pool is 9 to 10 feet throughout. All lanes are 7-feet wide. The competition pool opens at 6 a.m. each day of the meet. The warm-up pools will be open starting at 7 a.m. and there will be 13 lanes for warm-up in the diving well and instructional pools during competition.

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The Fortress — Thu, 07 Apr 2016 04:19:01 GMT

USMS April Streamlines has a nice video on how to use the Colorado Timing "Backstroke Ledge" ... out today. One of these years ! .... .... .... May i make a correction, after receiving a National meet update just now -- "Backstroke Ledges" will be in use for the meet !!!! I'm not getting meet updates via email (or the Streamlines), odd. I will have to search for the video. So for sure the ledges will be in use at nationals?

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jackback — Mon, 04 Apr 2016 10:36:53 GMT