2012 Spring Nationals

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Former Member — Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:28:10 GMT

A reminder to connect to the Twitter and Facebook pages for the meet. twitter.com/USMSGreensboro www.facebook.com/2012USMSGreensboro

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orca1946 — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 02:35:17 GMT

After looking up my age & Q times, I have noted that they are faster than last year. I'm older & now I need to go faster????? This could be a poor fly in the ointment!!

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jroddin — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 03:45:53 GMT

Where is the entry form for the meet I can not find it? I want to go as I qualify for every event except 3 and the relays. HELP!!!! The actual entry form is available here: www.usmsswimmer.com/.../springnats2012preview.pdf The online entry system will be available no later than Feb 1. Jeff Roddin

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swimmieAvsFan — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 02:38:21 GMT

Sorry I am just very anal about dates and deadlines if something says a specific date and its not there when the date arrives I start to flip out a little because my schedule is so tight with trainning and other life activities I need to plan everything way in advanced. Plus I don't want my events to fill up as I plan on doing a lot of them. 1000 1650 500 200 100 50FR 100IM 100FL and maybe more. There are 3 weeks till the absolute last day Jim said the entry page would be ready. The entry deadline will be some time in March. There is no cap on entries in each event. And you can only do 6 events- no matter how many you qualified for or want to do. Oh, and breathe- this is supposed to be fun.

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BlueiSwim — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 02:27:16 GMT

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swimmieAvsFan — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 02:20:36 GMT

Where is the entry form for the meet I can not find it? I want to go as I qualify for every event except 3 and the relays. HELP!!!! Dude, slow down with the cut and paste on every thread that talks about 2012 SCY nats. Our lovely webmaster will get the page up and running by Feb. 1st, as he's mentioned on other threads. Promise he will, he's never forgotten to do it before.

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BlueiSwim — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 02:19:06 GMT

Where is the entry form for the meet I can not find it? I want to go as I qualify for every event except 3 and the relays. HELP!!!!

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orca1946 — Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:52:27 GMT

I just looked up q times & I make it in on 7 events !!:applaud::banana:1 I just need to get rid of a few body problems I am dealing with!:cane::badday:

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michaelreed77 — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 12:53:41 GMT

Is the men's 500 on Sunday or Saturday? One online source indicated Saturday, but the meet registration form in Swimmer listed it as Sunday, with the womens' 500 on Saturday. Please confirm. Thanks!

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Sandi Rousseau — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 01:40:43 GMT

The womens' 500 in Greensboro is on Saturday and the men's 500 is on Sunday. The order of events is now correct on the web.

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jaadams1 — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 01:18:04 GMT

Is that a training problem, attitude problem or both? :worms: Ooooooo :popcorn: The suspense...

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Former Member — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:52:26 GMT

I don't think I have a 1000 and a 1650 in me on the same day. Is that a training problem, attitude problem or both?

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tjrpatt — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 08:08:56 GMT

Thanks, Jeff. The folks at GAC clearly have built a great facility and we appreciate this approach. This is sound progress for the hitherto discriminated distance swimmers. Geek is going to send you all kinds of love. Now, we just did a distance day on the weekend day. Distance swimmers always have to take a day off from work to do their "core" events. I understand that more people swim the sprints. Yeah! Yeah!

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aquageek — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 06:23:11 GMT

Geek is going to send you all kinds of love. I don't think I have a 1000 and a 1650 in me on the same day.

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Patrick W. Brundage — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 10:57:38 GMT

The good news – because of the unique opportunity to offer 22 lanes of competition in Greensboro, 2012 Spring Nationals will offer the opportunity for swimmers to enter both distance events on ThursdayThanks, Jeff. The folks at GAC clearly have built a great facility and we appreciate this approach. This is sound progress for the hitherto discriminated distance swimmers. Geek is going to send you all kinds of love.

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jroddin — Tue, 20 Dec 2011 04:33:03 GMT

I am posting to answer some of the questions about the 2012 Spring Nationals competition courses in Greensboro. It is anticipated we will use two side by side 11 lane courses for the distance day (Thursday). The 50m pool is 24 lanes wide and two bulkheads will separate the two courses (the two bulkheads take up 2 lanes in the middle). Then on Friday-Saturday-Sunday we will use two 10 lane courses (very outside lane from each course will be vacant). We can consider running two 8 lane courses (two lengthwise courses like we did in Atlanta) if entries are lower than anticipated (i.e. the projected timeline with 8 lane courses is manageable). So unless Fortress enters the 1000 or 1650, she cannot get a wall lane! USMS Championship Committee policy is to only allow swimmers to enter both distance events (800/1000 and 1500/1650) if one of two criteria is met: there is an available third course (or an available second course for long course), or the meet is a 5 day format (when 2009-Indy had a 5 day format the extra day was for the distance relays so that took the place of the individual distance event double option). We realize it is not ideal to swim both of the distance events on the same day, but with a 4 day format it’s the only viable option (five day format can allow the distance events to be on separate days). Clovis (2009) offered both distance events because they had an available third course. However, entries were low enough that they only needed to utilize two of those courses but the key factor was they had a third course if needed. To my knowledge before Clovis you had to go back to Fort Lauderdale (1995) for the next time swimmers could enter both distance events at short course Nationals. For Summer Nationals, Mission Viejo (2005) had a 5 day format and allowed both distance events. In 2013 they will offer a 5 day format and will again offer the option to swim both distance events (on separate days). The good news – because of the unique opportunity to offer 22 lanes of competition in Greensboro, 2012 Spring Nationals will offer the opportunity for swimmers to enter both distance events on Thursday (provided you meet the NQT in at least one of them). We feel that the extra lanes are almost equivalent to an extra competition course and as such the extra entries can be accommodated (fingers crossed!). The full meet information will come out in the January/February issue of SWIMMER and also be released to the USMS website on or about January 1. But I thought it would be nice to put a little something under the tree for the distance swimmers now since it is official. Jeff

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jaadams1 — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 07:21:24 GMT

11 lanes is just so unnatural! Other "unnatural" pools that I've seen: Mount Hood Community College Gresham, Oregon 50 Meter pool, 9 lanes Pasco, Washington has a 50 Meter pool with 7 lanes

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tjrpatt — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 07:18:32 GMT

11 lanes is just so unnatural!

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Former Member — Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:08:39 GMT

Has the widths vs bulk heads question been answered somewhere yet? ...the entry deadline will be March 23. Seeding decisions are expected to be made by April 13. Seeding decisions will include which courses will be used. I was at a meet this past weekend and hear they will be running two 11 lane courses at Greensboro. Is that true? That is partially correct. Did the answer change in the hour between when you answered me and answered Geek? How can running the meet with two 11 lane courses be partially correct?

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jroddin — Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:46:16 GMT

My guess is some events will use 11 lanes (i.e. - 1000 and 1650) allowing for people to enter both. That's just my guess. My comment about 10 lanes was a direct cut and paste from a June 15 post of mine. Sorry for the confusion. You asked if the decision had been made so I was simply reminding people that the decision wasn't going to be made until entries closed. Geek is smarter than he looks :D Yes, the current plan is 11 lanes for the distance day and then 8 or 10 lanes for the other days. I still plan to write all of this out but just haven't had the time. Thanks for your patience. Jeff

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aquageek — Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:20:34 GMT

Did the answer change in the hour between when you answered me and answered Geek? How can running the meet with two 11 lane courses be partially correct? My guess is some events will use 11 lanes (i.e. - 1000 and 1650) allowing for people to enter both. That's just my guess.

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The Fortress — Thu, 15 Dec 2011 09:28:18 GMT

Um, what is this. I subscribed. I know it won't have any bellyaching and whining, but I expect some comedy gold. Or else Little Devil has to take back the "Geek is smart" comment. Oh, and obviously 8 lanes is better to avoid bare walls. :-)

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aquageek — Thu, 15 Dec 2011 01:33:20 GMT

Geek is smart Book it, nerds!

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aquageek — Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:18:54 GMT

Except of course for AZTIMM. His won't arrive until after Nationals is over. Comedy gold right there! Burn. Just keep in mind that for every lane you add you increase the bellyaching and whining by the sprinters as the time line gets reduced.

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jroddin — Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:50:40 GMT

I was at a meet this past weekend and hear they will be running two 11 lane courses at Greensboro. Is that true? That is partially correct. I'll put more info out soon. But FYI the full meet announcement which will outline all facets of the meet and the entry form will come out in the January/February issue of SWIMMER magazine. I understand the issue is at the printer now being prepped for an on time delivery (first week in January). Except of course for AZTIMM. His won't arrive until after Nationals is over.