Nationals - no 400 or 800 relays? Really?

RE: Nationals - no 400 or 800 relays? Really?

Former Member — Sat, 13 Jan 2007 08:17:41 GMT

Don't all distance swimmers secretly (or not so secretly) long to be sprinters but they just can't get it going that fast? You are truly uninformed.

RE: Nationals - no 400 or 800 relays? Really?

Former Member — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:14:14 GMT

I am new to Masters' competitions, so, here is my question: how do relays work according to age? Is it same age groups as individual events or can it be mixed? :dunno:

RE: Nationals - no 400 or 800 relays? Really?

MPohlmann — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:39:28 GMT

The age group of a short course yards relay is determined by the age of the youngest swimmer. The others on the relay can be any age. The age groups for SCY relays are 18 and over, 25 and over, 35 and over, 45 and over, 55 and over, 65 and over, 75 and over, continuing in 10 year increments. For Meters, both short course and long course, the age groups for relays is determined by the sum of the ages of the swimmers. The age sum must fit within the range specified: 72-99, 100-119, 120-159, 160-199, 200-239, continuing in 40 year increments. The rules regarding Age Groups are found in Article 102.3 of the USMS Rulebook which is available online:http://www.usms.org/rules/ Hope that helps.

RE: Nationals - no 400 or 800 relays? Really?

Frank Thompson — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 09:58:46 GMT

Actually there was one USMS National Championship Meet that I recall that offered the 3 relays (400 Free, 400 Medley, 800 Free). The 1997 Long Course Nationals was spread over 5 days and I believe that is the only meet in USMS Championship history to offer these relays. www.usms.org/.../

RE: Nationals - no 400 or 800 relays? Really?

Michael Heather — Tue, 09 Jan 2007 10:14:19 GMT

Ok, so shave for Regionals. The 800 and 400 relays are actually relatively new additions to the Masters rule book. There were only 200s at all for a long time. We have not added the longer relays because of the added time demands (as previously stated) to an already long meet. Perhaps the championship committee will at some point consider swapping or adding relays from year to year, but that will be in the distant future, if at all. So, if you want to set relay records in 400 or 800 relays, taper and shave for Regionals. Cheers!

RE: Nationals - no 400 or 800 relays? Really?

Former Member — Fri, 05 Jan 2007 11:06:37 GMT

Since there are no official 800 or 400 relays at Nationals, are there time trials offered? We would like to do our relay at a meet where we are shaved to break a record, not at Regionals.

RE: Nationals - no 400 or 800 relays? Really?

Betsy — Mon, 01 Jan 2007 06:23:41 GMT

In Colonies Zones, all relays are offered at the Zone Championship meets. This works out well since there is better team participation at Zones than at Nationals.

RE: Nationals - no 400 or 800 relays? Really?

Muppet — Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:32:39 GMT

Actually, that was day 2, Friday. The 1000 and 1650 were on day 1, Thursday. like i said, 2005 Ft. Lauderdale had the men's 500 on the first day. :p first day that matters anyways :) Jeff, that's because it's a silly event that no one actually enjoys except for a few masochistic souls ... blech! don't be a hater. :banana:

RE: Nationals - no 400 or 800 relays? Really?

FlyQueen — Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:21:43 GMT

Don't all distance swimmers secretly (or not so secretly) long to be sprinters but they just can't get it going that fast?

RE: Nationals - no 400 or 800 relays? Really?

FlyQueen — Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:46:30 GMT

Anyone else notice that it won't be until 2010 that the men's 500 is not on the last day of the meet? 2005 Ft. Lauderdale had the men's 500 on the first day. That worked out great! Oh well. Until then, me on sunday afternoon of nationals: :dedhorse: Jeff, that's because it's a silly event that no one actually enjoys except for a few masochistic souls ... blech!

RE: Nationals - no 400 or 800 relays? Really?

Jim Clemmons — Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:23:59 GMT

"2005 Ft. Lauderdale had the men's 500 on the first day." Actually, that was day 2, Friday. The 1000 and 1650 were on day 1, Thursday.

RE: Nationals - no 400 or 800 relays? Really?

Muppet — Wed, 27 Dec 2006 11:04:29 GMT

RE: Nationals - no 400 or 800 relays? Really?

Jeff Commings — Tue, 26 Dec 2006 11:16:21 GMT

The meet's long enough as it is. Adding those relays would get us out of there at 8:00 each night. And that would mean much less beer drinking for the Smiths.

RE: Nationals - no 400 or 800 relays? Really?

Former Member — Mon, 25 Dec 2006 13:30:17 GMT

Also, in case someone from a USMS Committee of some sort is reading this, WHY are there no 400 or 800 relays at Nationals? I know that there are no recognized World Records for 400 or 800 relays, but that can't be the reason for the exclusion of these relays at our National meet. After all, there are no World Records at all for the yards format, and yet we hold a SCY National Chamionship. Just curious.