2005 SC Nationals

RE: 2005 SC Nationals

Former Member — Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:15:44 GMT

Michael is correct that the house of delegates at the annual convention makes the final decision on the order of events. Tyically every three years, the championship committee submits a series of schedules for the house to select from. Three are chosen and used in a the rotation listed above. The exception occurs when the bidder decides they wish to run a 5-day meet rather than a 4-day meet. At this time, we have no standard 5-day schedules, so if the bid is successful, we have to make one up. This happened last year for Rutgers and will happen again for the Mission Viejo meet in 2005. The host club working with their liaison to the championship committee comes up with a schedule. It is submitted to the championship committee. From there it goes to the house of delegates for approval. For the Mission Viejo meet in summer 2005, we are in the middle of this process. The schedule will be finalized this fall at the annual convention. Mark Gill Meet Liaison 2005 LC Nationals

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Former Member — Mon, 19 Jul 2004 09:26:07 GMT

Yes.. And no. According to rule 104.5.2D - Alternative Meet Schedules - A meet bidder may, with the approval of the Championship Committee, bid for a national championship with a different schedule from those defined in 104.5.2A (the one I just posted above). There is a preset order, though I think it's fairly rare that a bidder uses anything different that what is presented in the rules. Rob

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Former Member — Mon, 19 Jul 2004 09:15:51 GMT

Originally posted by shipleywm Secondly, can someone put up the link again that stated the order of events for the next six or so LC and SC nationals? Thanks! To my knowledge there isn't a preset orer of events for nationals. It changes slightly from year to year. There are guidelines abuot the order of events, but they allow room to play, and it's up to each event's host to come up with the final order of events.

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Former Member — Mon, 19 Jul 2004 09:14:01 GMT

Whoops.. That's where the copy/paste broke off and I had to do 2 sections and combine them into one. Must have overlapped them. It should be fixed now. Rob

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michaelmoore — Mon, 19 Jul 2004 08:35:21 GMT

Notice that it says "bid." That only gets you into the bidding process. Does the bidder really care that much for a particular schedule to risk having the Championships Committee say "no." Of course, the winning bidder could come back and make an argument for a particular schedule and if it is reasonable, the committee may vote to send it to the House. In any case is the House of Delegates that makes the final decision about the order of events. Why would you want to make a change in the Meet Schedule? (This is said by a person who when the meet schedule comes up for discussion, tends to roll his eyes and get some sleep). michael

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Former Member — Mon, 19 Jul 2004 06:09:53 GMT

Schedule 1 2004 Long Course 2006 Short Course 1st Day ** 800 / 1000 Free 1500 / 1650 Free 2nd Day 400 IM 50 Fly 200 Free 100 Back 200 *** 200 Mixed Medley Relay 200 Free Relay 3rd Day 400/500 Free (Women) 200 Back 50 Free 100 *** 200 IM 100 Fly 200 Medley Relay 4th Day 500 Free (Men) 50 *** 100 IM * 200 Fly 100 Free 50 Back 200 Mixed Free Relay ============================================== Schedule 2 2005 Short Course 2006 Long Course 1st Day ** 800 / 1000 Freestyle 1500 / 1650 Freestyle 2nd Day 400 / 500 Free (Men) 50 *** 100 Fly 200 Back 50 Free 200 IM 200 Mixed Free Relay 3rd Day 400 / 500 Free (Women) 100 IM* 200 *** 100 Free 50 Back 200 Fly 200 Medley Relay 4th Day 100 Back 50 Fly 200 Free 100 *** 200 Mixed Medly Relay 200 Free Relay 400 IM ============================================== Schedule 3 2005 Long Course 1st Day ** 800 / 1000 Freestyle 1500 / 1650 Freestyle 2nd Day 100 Fly 50 *** 100 Back 200 Free 200 Mixed Medley Relay 200 Free Relay 400 IM 3rd Day 100 IM* 200 Fly 50 Back 100 Free 200 *** 200 Medley Relay 400 / 500 Free (Women) 4th Day 200 Back 50 Free 200 IM 50 Fly 100 *** 200 Mixed Free Relay 400 / 500 Free (Men) * The 100 IM is swum in short course nationals only. ** With Championship Committee approval, a swimmer may compete in both of the two longest freestyle events at the meet. The Championship Committee shall decide how national qualifying times will affect the entry.

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Jim Clemmons — Mon, 19 Jul 2004 05:19:22 GMT

Thanks Rob. Jim

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Jim Clemmons — Mon, 19 Jul 2004 04:55:31 GMT

Rob, Where's the 200 *** for schedule 2? Maybe I just missed it. :eek: Day 3 appears a little brief. Jim

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Former Member — Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:53:35 GMT

Thanks!

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swim53 — Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:07:46 GMT

Bill- Look under 4/27, the posting called 2005 USMS Nationals under the category "Nationals"- by MPohlmann It gives the order of events for Ft L if the rule book is followed and gives the page of the rule book that shows the entire rotation. And the rule book is online

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swim53 — Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:56:35 GMT

When we were in Ft L for Y Nat's less than two weeks ago, they indicated that the meet will be in the current pool. I have seen the list that shows the rotation of the order of events, I just can't find it using SEARCH. I think Mary Pohlman has it handy because she just ran a post the other day which indicated the order for a meet down the line, can't remember.